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  • DeV
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    If Mary Harney wants a "lift" (pun intended) to the offie from the Department of Health, we should be looking a Chinook, as it would proberly be the only helicopter capable of lift her.

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  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by herr flick
    More transport for the Ministers. In fairness thay dont look like what we need. We need larger troop transporters,something like the merlin, or puma. Something that can be used for the delivery of troops to an area, not a company car in the sky. When will we ever get it right,we have training aircraft(Pilatus) which are supposed to be used to train piolts to a standard where thay can then progress onto Jet aircraft. WE DONT HAVE JET AIRCRAFT. For the love of God what are they at, I give up!

    You missed out on the earlier discussions about why these aircraft are suitable, and what they will be used for. Yes a merlin would be ideal, but what happens when bertie wants to go to belfast, or Harney wants to go to the offie? They take the merlin, because nothing else is available.
    Also if we have only TTH, trainee pilots will suffer a very steep learning curve, at maximum expense to the taxpayer, as they prang the helis regularly while getting used to the uniqueness of Heli flight.

    I don't think the Blackhawk would be as suitable as we once thought. Having seen one up close, the cockpit, while numerically large in volume, suffers from very low headroom and a very high floor. The pilots and co pilots station are particularly difficult to get into.
    As I have said many times before, those who selected the aircraft know more about these things than most of us( I assume), so lets wait until we have actual problems with them before we write them off.

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  • yooklid
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    http://www.aerospace-technology.com/...39/ab1394.html

    Nice pic of the assembly line

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    I disagree. The EC-135's are excellent rotary wing trainers, and hopefully will shield the AB-139's from non-tactical taskings - VIP transport and air ambulance, so they can concentrate on the military Support Helicopter roles you highlight. In fact I would like to see a third 135 ordered to further keep the pressure off the 139's. Granted, the AB-139 is not ideal, Blackhawks or NH90's being preferable, but they will certainly do the job, particularly in a combined deployed air group with, say, Finnish NH90's. And, importantly, the Government must proceed with orders for at least eight of them to sustain a deployed package of 4-5 aircraft for up to six months or 2-3 for a year.

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  • herr flick
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    More transport for the Ministers. In fairness thay dont look like what we need. We need larger troop transporters,something like the merlin, or puma. Something that can be used for the delivery of troops to an area, not a company car in the sky. When will we ever get it right,we have training aircraft(Pilatus) which are supposed to be used to train piolts to a standard where thay can then progress onto Jet aircraft. WE DONT HAVE JET AIRCRAFT. For the love of God what are they at, I give up!

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  • Goldie fish
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    From the eurocopter website...

    The Irish Air Corps, the air element of the Irish Defence Forces, has taken delivery of the first of two EC 135 P2 helicopters in late September. The second aircraft is due in October. As part of the Air Corps’ fleet upgrade programme, the EC 135s will be used primarily for pilot training, Emergency Medical Services (EMS) and Army support.



    The Irish Air Corps is a long-standing Eurocopter customer with Alouette III, AS 355 and AS 365 helicopters in its services. The EC 135 has been selected for its proven reliability, safety, multi-role capability, advanced design and excellent maintenance support. The Air Corps’ task is to contribute to the security of the State and to fulfill all roles assigned by the Government.



    For the broad spectrum of missions of the Irish Air Corps, the aircraft are equipped with a night vision goggle compatible glass cockpit, dual and single pilot IFR instrumentation, a sophisticated navigation management system, rescue hoist, cargo hook, rope-down device and fixed provisions for FLIR (Forward Looking Infrared) camera. Both helicopters can be fitted with EMS equipment.



    Since its market introduction in mid-1996, the EC 135 has become the fastest-selling light twin-engine helicopter in its class, with more than 70 aircraft being delivered to customers per year. It is the preferred choice of law enforcement agencies and EMS operators worldwide, having captured 24% and 43% of these markets respectively in terms of new helicopters delivered. The EC 135 and its military variant, the EC 635, are also in military operational services with the German Armed Forces and the Royal Jordanian Air Force.



    Eurocopter is proud to add the Irish Air Corps to its family of prestigious EC 135 customers.



    The EC 135’s sustained success and undisputed leadership in the international market for new-generation light twins is based on its innovative and reliable technology, such as its modular design as well as digital avionics, the low-noise, bearingless and maintenance-free main rotor and quiet, shrouded tail rotor of the Fenestron® type. The large cabin is easily accessible through large side sliding doors as well as rear clamshell doors, and can be easily re-configured for a variety of missions. At 7 dB below ICAO limits, it is the quietest helicopter in its class according to official measurements.

    Eurocopter is a wholly-owned subsidiary of EADS. EADS is a global leader in aerospace, defence and related services. In 2004, EADS generated revenues of € 31.8 billion and employed a workforce of about 110,000. The EADS Group includes the aircraft manufacturer Airbus, the world's largest helicopter supplier Eurocopter and the joint venture MBDA, the international leader in missile systems. EADS is the major partner in the Eurofighter consortium, is the prime contractor for the Ariane launcher, develops the A400M military transport aircraft and is the largest industrial partner for the European satellite navigation system Galileo.





    For more information, please contact:



    Jean Louis ESPES Christina GOTZHEIN

    Tel: + 33 (0)4 42 85 95 55 Tel: + 49 (0) 89 6000 64 88

    Fax: + 33 (0)4 42 85 95 64 Fax:+ 49 (0) 89 6000 44 37

    jean-louis.espes@eurocopter.com christina.gotzhein@eurocopter.com

    Eurocopter Eurocopter Deutschland GmbH



    Jesus RUIZ

    Tel: + 34 91 379 66 04

    Fax: + 34 91 379 66 10

    jesus.ruiz@eurocopter.com

    Eurocopter España, S.A

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  • ias
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    According defense-aerospace.com today, the AC received it's first EC-135 in September?

    Any photos anybody?

    IAS

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  • yooklid
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    Of interest to the topic, I should say

    http://www.armada.ch/05-3/article-full.cfm

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  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by mugs
    yeah well I thought the picture showed the new colour scheme of the EC135.

    BTW I didn't get a chance to read it or buy it with a security guard breathing down my neck.
    Photoshop.

    If you read any of the comments here,you would see they are not due for delivery until late october/november this year.

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  • mugs
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    Originally posted by NOVA
    so wat colour scheme will thay have?
    The pic I seen was dark green with the tri-colour on the tail above the rear rotor, Just like the Garda Air Support, and the air corp roulette on the front 2 doors.
    Last edited by mugs; 18 July 2005, 20:03.

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    so wat colour scheme will thay have?

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  • mugs
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    yeah well I thought the picture showed the new colour scheme of the EC135.

    BTW I didn't get a chance to read it or buy it with a security guard breathing down my neck.

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  • FMolloy
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    Originally posted by mugs
    Has the EC135 entered service yet, I saw a pic of it in "Flying In Ireland" today with air corp markings.

    Please do explain.
    According to Goldie, the same magazine printed an interview with GoC Air Corp who said the EC135's will be in service in November. Try reading magazines instead of looking at the pictures.

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  • Big Al
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    Originally posted by mugs
    Has the EC135 entered service yet, I saw a pic of it in "Flying In Ireland" today with air corp markings.

    Please do explain.
    photoshop...?

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  • mugs
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    Has the EC135 entered service yet, I saw a pic of it in "Flying In Ireland" today with air corp markings.

    Please do explain.

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