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  • #46
    re. EYETIE SF
    http://www.corpidelite.altervista.org/

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    • #47
      the Italian military today is a long way from the WW2 steriotype
      yeah right, how come no one would allow the italians to take control of the missions in the balkans then?

      We may well get an extra 2 AB139 at some future date.

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      • #48
        Stay on topic lads, no more talk of Italians, unless it's the helicopters.
        "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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        • #49
          I found this in the Aviation journal

          C/N


          Reg.


          Operator


          Reg. date


          Remarks
          31001 01 Agusta Elicotteri -- Prototype AC01
          - I-ACOI Agusta Elicotteri 26.10.2001 Crashed 22.04.2002 Monteleone (Cesena) - w/o
          31002 02 Agusta Elicotteri -- Prototype AC02
          -

          I-ATWO
          Agusta Elicotteri 07.2002
          31003 03 Agusta Elicotteri -- Prototype AC03
          - I-EPIC Agusta Elicotteri 11.2002 Repainted 01.2004 with new color scheme.
          31004 I-ANEW Agusta Elicotteri 07.2002 First serie helicopter. Painted with "Power" style colors.
          31005 05 Agusta Elicotteri -- First flights in June 2003 - AC05
          - I-ROCS Agusta Elicotteri 01.2004
          - - Locat Spa 03.2004 Agusta Elicotteri (Elilario Italia)
          31006 06 Agusta Elicotteri 2004 AC06 - presented al Las Vegas HAI 2004, no registration.
          31007 TBA
          31008 V5-HNG Namibian Government Air Transport Unit 16.09.2004 msn to be confirmed
          31009
          31010
          31011
          31012
          31013
          31014

          To be delivered / on order / general infos

          Please select the "highlighted" registration for related images.




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          Registration


          Owner / Operator


          Date


          Remarks
          ?? C-... London Air Services TBD on order, delivery late 2005. corporate
          ?? C-... London Air Services TBD on order, delivery late 2005/early 2006. corporate
          ?? I-... Colacem TBD on order, corporate
          31008 V5-HNG Namibian Government Air Transport Unit 16.09.2004 delivered - msn to be confirmed
          ?? -- Namibian Government Air Transport Unit TBD on order
          ?? I-... Airgreen TBD on order, EMS
          ?? N... Evergreen international TBD on order
          ?? N... Evergreen international TBD on order
          ?? I-... Alidaunia TBD on order, offshore / EMS
          ?? I-... Alidaunia TBD on order, offshore / EMS
          ?? ??? Esercito Italiano SOU delivered SF support
          ?? EC-... Helisureste TBD on order
          ?? -- Rojal Oman Police Air Wing TBD on order
          ?? ZK-... Helicopters (NZ) Ltd TBD on order
          Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?

          Dr. Venture: Dean, you smell like a whore

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          • #50
            According to AW, the AC are the third "security/military" force to select the type, the others are the USCG and the Oman Police.

            IAS
            Last edited by ias; 2 December 2004, 19:06.

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            • #51
              A few A129 CBTs wouldnt hurt either
              "It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Come-quickly
                A few A129 CBTs wouldnt hurt either
                A129....AB139....whats the difference really?


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #53
                  Ten! :tri:

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                  • #54
                    What pads in Ireland will/would they be using, and what are the weight limits of those?

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                    • #55
                      Any word on the contract signing anywhere? Not much work will be done in the next week,and none the week after...has Sikorski thrown a spanner in the works?


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • #56
                        Dosen't matter what colour you paint them ...they are still shite!

                        Even the yanks are buying EH101s....could we not for once buy something somebody else uses ..or even has heard of?

                        A discount aircorps.....****ing PC9s and Agusta 139 helos ...whats next?

                        who is getting the backhaders from this one?
                        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                        • #57
                          In fairness murf,on what grounds to you bast the opinion that they are shite? Flight International test flew one in june and had nothing but complimentary comments. And their writer was a Pilot.
                          As for EH101s...while it is admitted that they are a great machine,we need to build up the intermediate level heli before we return/begin MLH operations.

                          Suggesting the EH101 is a better heli than the AB139(they are built by the same people) is like Mrs Murf sending you to the shops for a pound of sausages,and you coming back with a steak.


                          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                          • #58
                            yeah but we've had sausages for far to long...the kids are becomming bored with the variety ...we've had steak on sundays.....Puma leased and S61 leased....but the kids are all growed up and need meat every day.....gone are the days of running around saying you pretend to be a tank...we need the real thing now...if we keep putting it off we will nwever have the real thing.

                            In terms of time versus ability we stared heli ops forty years ago ....but we still can't put more than half a dozen men in the air in one machine at any one time...

                            If similar progress was to be applied to the army ...we'ed still be operating beaverettes. There were plenty of second hand serious medium to heavy lift machines out there and yet again we had to buy the nice new shiny one of f the top shelf....and for what so they can spend two thirds of their life in a hanger....buy them cheap ....abuse the shit out of them and replace them......the Russians had it down to a fine art....High tech and shiny is great if your have loadsa money .....we don't .
                            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                            • #59
                              Again Murf you are missing the point here. These craft are expected to replace the Dauphin and Allouette,the latter which has served us well for 40 years,the former..well the less said about that the better. We will for the first time have the ability to airlift 32 CEFO equipped troops at once (assuming 100% availability,which has become possible with the "loss" of SAR commitments.)

                              While medium lift would be lovely,and Heavy lift even better,our limited defence budget would mean that we could only hope to see no more than 2 or less of either,while the elderly allouettes and Dauphins became obsolete,and became unservicable,leaving the Air Corps with 3 or 4 fantastic massive aircraft,but nothing else,and nothing to train aircrew on.

                              Its the beginning of a new chapter. If we keep knocking it like so many have been doing,eager pen pushers in the DoD will decide "well they dont want them at all"...and cancel the order,like so many times before.

                              The S92s would have been entering service about now....and they are still crap.

                              Anyway,get back to the topic...


                              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                              • #60
                                yep the dauphins and the allouettes......and don't forget the gazelles...all fine within their roles but we have moved on into to the 21st century.....well so the civil servants tell us. we are no closer to being a 21st century army than we were 40 years ago ...at least airmobile wise. The americans embraced the concept in 1964...and here we are still training people for it.

                                you want to put 32 guys over the horizon using the entire helifleet of the nation....**** I can do that using three mowags...and still have some left over for round two.

                                the purchase of such minor machinery is purile. 32 men movements is a platoon in attack ...without casualties.32 men is a tiny fraction of what should be airmobile in the 21st .century.

                                hang on lets ask local rowing club to undertake fishery protection...and the local legion of mary to substitute for the ARW.

                                the S92 was notthe machine either. If we had even the sense to stay 10 years behind the rest of the galaxy we could have bought Pumas or the licence built equivelant which even the brits are doing
                                Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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