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  • #76
    Bingo. right on the mark Dev.

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    • #77
      Thanks for the clarification re: MATS. Recently visited the Bell-Augusta site. Saw picture of military version of 139. It had pylons for ground attack rockets. Any chance ours will have this capability also?

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      • #78
        I doubt very much that the AC will put weapons other than door guns on the new helis.

        I'd get used to the acronyms, militaries world-wide are very fond of them.
        "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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        • #79
          would having this capability affect ability to carry usual number of troops ,equipment etc. BTW spot the non-soldier amongst you!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by DeV
            The PwC report recommended that the number of barracks be reduced ... that has been done, and whether the Minister, or anyone else, likes it or not it makes sense for PDF barracks to be reduced further.

            It was proposed that the transport fleet be drastically upgraded and MLHs be purchased in order to make the DF more deployable at home, while making up for closed barracks.
            My point exactly!
            IRISH AIR CORPS - Serving the Nation.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by adwmaher
              would having this capability affect ability to carry usual number of troops ,equipment etc. BTW spot the non-soldier amongst you!
              Yes. All aircraft are limited by gravity. Also known as the maximum take off weight or MTOW. For every bit of extra kit,be it weapon or sensor you put in,something else must come out,be it troops,or in the case of D248, fuel.

              This mistake already cost the lives of 4 good men. I doubt it'll happen again,hence we'll get aircraft fitted with equipment required to do their designed task.

              We are not looking for an attack heli just yet.


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by SPOOKY
                Disagree.

                Reliability problems where due to equipment overload and safety certification with GS, in relation to the AC's single type. (see thread)

                Islanders work well for very diverse range of roles, just ask those in the Western Isles, or off the Irish west coast.

                Dash4/8 is a better aircraft, but more expensive.
                What others twin engined types are light enough to furfil the role?
                The story of the defender "problems" can be found here


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #83
                  As si the case with a lot of twin engined underpowered aircraft the purpose of the second engine is to make sure you arrive at the crash site!
                  Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                  • #84
                    Hi all
                    To clarify: the USCG were obliged by political pressure to fit the locally-made Lycoming engines to the Dauphin. It was not a suitable fit, to say the least. A combination of politicians and "not invented here" syndrome. Also, in the past, the Air Corps/DoD believed every word the manufacturer or their agents said and were inveigled into rigid, expensive sale/maintenance contracts that have been found, over time, to be too expensive. Thankfully, they're a bit more cynical and less naive and more inclined to argue the toss. I hope...
                    regards
                    GttC

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by DeV
                      A LOT of helicopters ... Puma HC.1 (in service with RAF since 1971) which carries up to 16 fully equipped troops (20 in CEFO) requires 34 lifts to move a infantry battalion of around 625 troops. Thats 2 SERVICABLE Pumas requiring 16 return journies.
                      Odds on the army buying 40-50 odd troop carrying/heavy lifters to move a light infantry battalion?

                      About equal to the odds on the Air Corps being transformed into an Air Force?
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                      • #86
                        As si the case with a lot of twin engined underpowered aircraft the purpose of the second engine is to make sure you arrive at the crash site!
                        Well at least you are guaranteed to arrive late.

                        "When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love."


                        Marcus Aurelius Roman Emperor (161 to 180 A.D.)

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                        • #87
                          Interesting thread on Military photos.net about the Alouette 111.

                          http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ic.php?t=50751
                          Last edited by B Inman; 9 June 2005, 23:40.

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                          • #88
                            Does this have anything to do with the air corps?


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • #89
                              Nope, so it goes bye bye.
                              "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                              • #90
                                we have rules here....


                                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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