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  • FYI : Defence Forces Irish Language Scheme 2006-2009

    The following is available from military.ie

    http://www.military.ie/SceimGaeilge.pdf

    Rather than the instant slagging such stuff normally generates please read through
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    The OLA is, in my view, a waste of resources but now that Irish is a "working" EU language (I can see the multinationals looking for loads of Irish speakers for their EU operations now) we are stuck with it. However some things like recruitment ads must be bi-lingual is a waste of advertising space, its a lot of pandering to the 3% who actually use the language, probably better off printing them in polish....
    You're even dumber than I tell people

    You might have been infected but you never were a bore

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    • #3
      Originally posted by trellheim View Post
      The following is available from military.ie

      http://www.military.ie/SceimGaeilge.pdf

      Rather than the instant slagging such stuff normally generates please read through
      Already discussed....well actually it wasn't but....

      http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com...light=language

      It has already proven nearly impossible to implement in its entireity. Unfortunately it is a far too ambitious scheme that lacks the structure & foundation to make it work.

      The OLA will be remembered by the resentment and opposition that it caused rather than what it achieved.
      Last edited by Docman; 2 January 2007, 19:04.

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      • #4
        I've heard that there is an Irish speaking course run every year open to members of the PDF. Is there sucha course available for members of the RDF?
        There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't

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        • #5
          Yes it is [ theoretically ] ; you are also entitled to wear the military fainne
          "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

          "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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          • #6
            is the "military" fainne in a subdued or camoflagued pattern or something
            Fate whispers to the warrior, "There is a storm coming"

            And the warrior whispers back "I am the storm".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antichrist View Post
              I've heard that there is an Irish speaking course run every year open to members of the PDF. Is there sucha course available for members of the RDF?
              There is a thread on that subject alright, I think it was discussed a year ago
              "Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here...this is the War Room!"

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              • #8
                Don't have much information on this but in the past the DF have been a very Irish language friendly organisation:

                All orders are given in Irish
                Annual Campa Gaeilge
                Allowances for Irish teachers
                Irish speaking units - 1 Inf Bn and E Coy 20 Inf Bn (FCA)
                As per the manual orders on the range are supposed to be given in Irish
                In the past large elements of either (what is now) the Junior C&S or C&S Course were taught in Irish
                During the Emergency and in the Congo, much radio communication was in Irish

                etc

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeV View Post
                  Don't have much information on this but in the past the DF have been a very Irish language friendly organisation:


                  Irish speaking units - 1 Inf Bn and E Coy 30 Inf Bn (FCA)

                  etc

                  Never heard of them


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #10
                    Obviously a typo: E Coy 20 Inf Bn (Na Fianna).

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                    • #11
                      Who are they now?


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • #12
                        Part of 62 Inf Bn.

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                        • #13
                          Was a typo now corrected

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bulldemboots!
                            Though they're not now an "Irish speaking" company. (Despite what some of them think).
                            So are they just an ordinary, English- speaking company now?
                            "Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here...this is the War Room!"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              All orders are given in Irish
                              As per the manual orders on the range are supposed to be given in Irish
                              In the past large elements of either (what is now) the Junior C&S or C&S Course were taught in Irish
                              Very different nowadays.

                              All drill orders are given in Pig Irish. We had a Fluent speaker give orders one time which led to total chaos..... because noone had ever heard the orders given in proper Irish before.
                              Orders on the range are rarely given in irish.... it is too bloody dangerous to do so. The only time this is ever enforced (and usually with major objections), it is only done with senior and experienced shooters.... Most of whom wait till the officer stops talking (the cue to start shooting). It led to a major incident a few years ago during a brigade shoot when the Range officer paused to ask another a question only for the whole detail to assume he was finished and open fire, not knowing what he was actually saying. You will also note that all warnings are given in English. It should be in irish but noone in their right mind is going to say cease fire in Irish because they KNOW noone will understand them.
                              The C&S courses were never taught through Irish. It may have been a small part, but never a large element.

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