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    Bravo20
    Commander in Chief

  • Bravo20
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    AFAIK the more specialised kit is issued out of Haulbowline (could be wrong though). However, you are demonstrating a point. We in the RDF moan (and rightly so) about the unavailability of kit, poor opening hours of clothing stores etc. and we seem to assume that it only affects the RDF. Yet, having spoken to a number of PDF personnel and they have the same experiences. Yes there will always be those who manage to get everything they are entitled to (and more), those people exist in both the RDF and PDF.

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  • morpheus
    Space Lord of Terra

  • morpheus
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    I think you may be looking at different reservists due to the high turnover in reserve units and thats why it always appears to be new, plus its worn far less than your own gear so it "weathers" better?

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  • trellheim
    Lord Chief Bottlewasher

  • trellheim
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    1. Where are NSR units dressed ? [ Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the home station ? -> therefore they may be dressed for example from CB barracks, and not from the the base. ]

    2. "we r closed" is something I refer you to your PDF administrative and stores wallahs and their well known long opening hours and willingness to assist all and sundry.

    Point. 2 is slightly sarcastic.
    trellheim
    Lord Chief Bottlewasher
    Last edited by trellheim; 13 February 2007, 10:35.

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  • A/TEL
    The Auld Fella

  • A/TEL
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    im sorry to be posting a naval matter in the Army section but it is relevent.

    I am on a NS seagoing unit and in the short time between patrols atttempt to get kit from the stores. Each time im told (a) we dont have anything here (b) we r closed

    Yet on many an occasion i see reservists walking around the base and on ships during the summer in the newest of gear, they seem to have no problem getting it.

    Now i have no problem with them personally, they do a great job with reliefs for seamen when normally the leave would be refused to them but they do not need new kit every year when PDF members are in need of it moreso.

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  • Truck Driver
    Captain

  • Truck Driver
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    Originally posted by Big Al View Post
    to summarise
    You've got too much time on your hands....

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    If only we had somebody who would represent us and put these points to the minister, and the department......

    A sort of Reserve defence forces representative something or other...

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  • Big Al
    Ex-bagger

  • Big Al
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    Originally posted by cooley View Post
    I almost fell asleep while reading that.
    to summarise
    Attached Files

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  • Guest
    Guest

  • Parts
    Guest replied
    By voluntary, I think he means that you volunteered, which means that the PDF is voluntary too, er...

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by willie the rat
    The Reserve Defence Force (RDF) is a voluntary organization and members are not dependant on it for their livelihood..
    Surely if we were voluntary we would be unpaid?
    Perhaps it should be emphasised to the DoD and the soon to be former minister, that the RDF is in fact in the Part Time employ of the Department, and deserves the same rights as all other part time workers?

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  • cooley
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    I almost fell asleep while reading that.

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  • Kieran Marum
    Private 2*

  • Kieran Marum
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    This matter was debated in the Dail [Wednesday 7th February 2007 [question 347]

    Text as follows:

    Defence Forces Reserve.
    347. Mr. Gilmore asked the Minister for Defence his plans to give the Reserve Defence Force access to a C and A scheme; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [4266/07]


    Minister for Defence (Mr. O’Dea): Defence Force Regulations S.7 and its enabling legislation the Defence Amendment Act, 1990 provide for representative structures for members of the Defence Forces including the Army and Naval Reserves. The question of a Conciliation and Arbitration Scheme for the ranks represented by the Reserve Defence Representative Association (RDFRA) has been raised by representatives of the association in the past. I am conscious that RDFRA presents substantial issues on behalf of members. However, I do not feel that a C&A scheme is warranted. The PDF C&A scheme addresses issues affecting the livelihood of members of the PDF. The Reserve Defence Force (RDF) is a voluntary organization and members are not dependant on it for their livelihood. Members of the RDF automatically accrue the benefits of improvements in pay and conditions made to their PDF colleagues.

    There are three (3) Conciliation and Arbitration Schemes in the country covering Teachers, Civil Servants and the Permanent Defence Force. Each covers an organisation with very large numbers of permanent employees.

    Under existing arrangements, RDFRA has open access to both the Department and the Military Authorities. A number of meetings take place each year between the Association and officials of the Department and separately between the Association and the Military Authorities. The frequency of this interaction has increased in recent times reflecting the modernisation agenda that is being progressed. My Department has recently initiated a joint forum where RDFRA, the Military and officials from the Department meet to collectively discuss and progress areas of concern to members of the RDFRA. Any issues within the scope of representation (as set out in the C&A Scheme for RACO and PDFORRA), which the Association wishes to raise, are dealt with at these fora.

    Significant progress is being made in the modernisation of the Reserve. The Reserve Defence Force Review Implementation Plan, which was formally launched in 2004, is progressing well. There is great credit due to both the members of the Reserve and their Representative Association for their contribution to this progress. Much work remains and ongoing dialogue between the Department and RDFRA is essential to the successful completion of the modernisation agenda. I remain sensitive to the concerns of RDFRA but am satisfied that there are processes in place to ensure that any issues that arise can be discussed and progressed. I will of course keep this situation under review to ensure that the good progress made to date continues into the future.

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  • hptmurphy
    Commander in Chief

  • hptmurphy
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    maybe it goes on size..you could get two small ones or one large one for 80 euro...

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  • Guest
    Guest

  • Parts
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
    This is simply scandalous- this makes my blood boil

    everyone knows that 2 smocks retail for €80
    I'd expect to get at least €80 for one.

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  • ZULU
    Teuton Foot Soldier

  • ZULU
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    I think they might have been discounted on being without "wings"

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  • hedgehog
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    he informed me he had paid a mate in the PDF €70 for TWO, yes TWO smocks.

    This is simply scandalous- this makes my blood boil

    everyone knows that 2 smocks retail for €80

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