Brigade Excercise

[DeV]

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For a long time, having a company on exercise was an aim. Their is now talk of brigade level exercises.

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Tell us more Dev...

[DeV]

Actually all I know is what I've read in the public domain (eg An Cosantoir).

Around 1996, each unit had to do a company in attack exercise, over the years it has developed into a unit from each brigade doing a battalion group exercise and apparently the hope is that it eventually go to brigade level exercises.

[Bosco]

Actually all I know is what I've read in the public domain (eg An Cosantoir).

Around 1996, each unit had to do a company in attack exercise, over the years it has developed into a unit from each brigade doing a battalion group exercise and apparently the hope is that it eventually go to brigade level exercises.

Am maybe a silly question where could they do the training???
Have the DF actually got any places big enough to put a Birgade in on exercise.

[mortar_man]

Am maybe a silly question where could they do the training???
Have the DF actually got any places big enough to put a Birgade in on exercise.

Probably not, its a disgrace, you wouldn't get a bde out of the army at the moment anyway. i hate d army!!!!!

[HavocIRL]

Am maybe a silly question where could they do the training???
Have the DF actually got any places big enough to put a Birgade in on exercise.

Curragh? Glen?

[MOB87]

the hope is that it eventually go to brigade level exercises.

This has already happened, in the RDF anyway.

Have the DF actually got any places big enough to put a Birgade in on exercise.

Yes

[Goldie fish]

There is noplace in the state that is suitable. It is becoming more difficult to do so in the Glen, because people decided to build their bungalows in the immediate environs. Sadly these people don't like the sound of trucks rolling past their house at 00mygodits early in the morning, or the sound of explosions in the night.
The curragh was never a suitable place for a large scale exercise of any sort. I can't even remember the range being used there in a while.
Kilworth is still usable, but you don't have accomodation there to billet large numbers. It will take a lot of organising to be able to close the roads that run through it, to allow an ex to take place without Civilians getting in the way. Civilians in the way usually results in compensation...

[REX]

as someone who took part in the bn deployment exercises in the glen i hope i never come across such a massive traffic jam as developed at the end of the exercise. the thought of a full bde in the same area doesn't bear thinking about

[Bosco]

Yes, Yes, I forgot the Air Corps, Engineers, AD and support weapons involvemnet in the above exercise. Still, it wasn't a Bde on the ground, unless someone hid the other 2000 troops in the river.

Goldie: Curragh range is in use all the time.

I was thinking as much 2000 bodies on the ground is a lot for one exercise.
As far as I can see Kilworth can hold a BN plus (training wise, not enough accomodation)
The Glen from what ive heard is in danger of getting a no shots b4 or no shots after certain hours similar to Oranmore range in Galway.

Would it be possible for the army to buy new land as a dedicated training area.
Go to a county with a fairly low population density(I think Roscommon or Lietrim are the lowest) and just buy as much contiguous land as possible. Perhaps an old estate, large amount of land in one purchase there.

[Komsomol]

Would it be possible for the army to buy new land as a dedicated training area.

BUYING new land?! BUYING new land?!


He said the taboo word! He said the taboo word!

Shoot him! Shoot him!


Seriously, look around, the government is obsessed with selling defence forces property, nevermind buying.

With the way things are going i'd say we'd be bribing the canadians for joint exercises just so we can use the space.

[Viking]

Realistically, to have enough space to exercise a Bde properly, you would need most of Leinster.

More importantly, the biggest shortage in exercises is troops, not space. Given that we have no Inf Bns at full strength it would take a Bde worth of current Bns to put a full Inf Bn on the ground.

[Steamy Window]

Realistically, to have enough space to exercise a Bde properly, you would need most of Leinster.

More importantly, the biggest shortage in exercises is troops, not space. Given that we have no Inf Bns at full strength it would take a Bde worth of current Bns to put a full Inf Bn on the ground.

If we're that short of numbers, and hearing from evidence here that theres plenty of competition for recruit platoons, why not put an extra recruit platoon or two in the training calendar until those numbers look respectable? Or is there more to it than such a simple solution?

[Viking]

If we're that short of numbers, and hearing from evidence here that theres plenty of competition for recruit platoons, why not put an extra recruit platoon or two in the training calendar until those numbers look respectable? Or is there more to it than such a simple solution?

Money is the issue, I suppose. Also, the current Government seem to have an unspoken embargo on Public Service recruitment, in the Army's case the 10500 cap, so I can't see that happening.

[The Thing]

I was thinking as much 2000 bodies on the ground is a lot for one exercise.
As far as I can see Kilworth can hold a BN plus (training wise, not enough accomodation)
The Glen from what ive heard is in danger of getting a no shots b4 or no shots after certain hours similar to Oranmore range in Galway.

Would it be possible for the army to buy new land as a dedicated training area.
Go to a county with a fairly low population density(I think Roscommon or Lietrim are the lowest) and just buy as much contiguous land as possible. Perhaps an old estate, large amount of land in one purchase there.

I think that Army brass had considered this for training with the Mowags a few years back, I have not heard anymore on the subject perhaps it was shelved....?