Protective eyewear while shooting

[DeV]

According to this months An Cosantoir:

"Everyone while firing will have to wear the goggles as a safety feature firing in close proximity."

All the photos of it being used show people wearing them. Does that mean when firing on the range, they have to be worn?

Yes the goggles can take prescription lenses, these are inserted. I don't think you can wear glasses with the goggles. They are only buying 5000 sets of goggles. Are they going to get prescription lenses for all members of the PDF & RDF who have to fire the pistol?

I know the range is only up to 25 metres max, but it does make a difference.

[Goldie fish]

ESS sunglasses available in the store also act as safety glasses.

[Truck Driver]

ESS sunglasses available in the store also act as safety glasses.

But again, what happens to those who wear glasses?

Do the ESS goggles accept prescription glasses inserts, and if so, who's
paying for them?

[FMolloy]

Do the ESS goggles accept prescription glasses inserts,

Yes.

[Groundhog]

ESS sunglasses available in the store also act as safety glasses.

If the DF decides that Goggles be worn on the range as a health and safety measure then only issue goggles will be allowed. Just as you are not allowed wear privately purchased hearing protection on the range.

[DeV]

It doesn't matter if you can't see the target, or are as accurate as you should be, though.

[Goldie fish]

If the DF decides that Goggles be worn on the range as a health and safety measure then only issue goggles will be allowed. Just as you are not allowed wear privately purchased hearing protection on the range.

HAH!

[Groundhog]

It doesn't matter if you can't see the target, or are as accurate as you should be, though.

HAH!

Any range manager who allows firers to use non-issue equipment is making the DF liable for injuries to those firers.

[luchi]

But again, what happens to those who wear glasses?

Do the ESS goggles accept prescription glasses inserts, and if so, who's
paying for them?

Yes.

Assuming DF pays there are 2 implications here
A: every one will be getting personal issue
B: any prescription glasses wearers cannot fire until issued .
This could take years!!

If the DF decides that Goggles be worn on the range as a health and safety measure then only issue goggles will be allowed. Just as you are not allowed wear privately purchased hearing protection on the range.

Even if the specs of the privatly purchased ones are better. This harps back to the pre ear protection days.

However H&S legislation puts the ownus on a person for their own safety. If you have ED that are better than army issue (and there are plenty available) then surley the DF is in breach of H&S regs and the army's own safety policy?

[FMolloy]

Even if the specs of the privately purchased ones are better.

The new goggles exceed the specified safety requirements, same as those sold in the store & elsewhere. Some people may find other eye wear more comfortable or suited to their needs, but they will not find a comparable product that is safer.

If you have ED that are better than army issue (and there are plenty available) then surely the DF is in breach of H&S regs and the army's own safety policy?

Are you saying that the hearing protection supplied by the DF does not provide sufficient protection for the scenarios they're used in?

[apod]

The issue is a moot point.The pistols are allready on issue to the units and training is going ahead.You cant qualify till you have passed toets and fired.Now isnt it just typical df to issue the pistols BEFORE the goggles that they are insisting are worn when firing!
As for prescription lenses dont make me laugh.There are supposed to be said lenses available for the issue respirator aswell.Never seen em and most likely never will.In fact i would say the c.q in most stores wouldnt even know what they are OR how to get them for someone.What a crock

p.s;Wearing goggles while firing small arms is a great idea and should have been enforced years ago,especially for close quarters shooting like with the pistol.I had the lovely experience a few years back of getting a splinter in the eyebal from firing the Bap.
Nice evening spent in cork regional E.R and an eyepatch for a week.

[Goldie fish]

Lucky to still have your sight. When Olympic and sport shooters have been using safety glasses for years, why is it only now the Irish DF decided to follow?

Will the same safety equipment now be mandatory for all firearms?

[The real Jack]

We should be wearing eye protection on the ground all the time. In Fibua especially there is always brass getting chucked at you. I wear glasses and they have stopped brass from hitting me in the eyes on a few occasions. Most countries militarys issue eye protection to their troops. Its pathetic that the DF are only getting 5000.

[Goldie fish]

never mind fibua. Ever get a branch in the eye?
I even know of a former PDF officer who now has a heart shaped pupil, due to getting some foreign object in his eye, while an armoured car commander in Lebanon.

[hptmurphy]

welll there goes the quality of shooting especially in the rain....whats next....