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    Good Evening All,

    Ive had interest in what goes on in the different corps for a long time.

    Ive always wondered in the reserve Military Police units what the kind of training they cover on field nights and on camp in the MPs (Military Law,Pistol etc..) im jsut information thats already public knowlegde.

    Im interested in the reserve units mainly but any relevant information would be greatly appreciated. From my point of few im wondering what training would you be likely to do if you transfered over as a Three Star from an infantry unit to the MPs would you basically start from scratch or does anybody know? Would this have been done much before transfers that is from inf to the MPs?

    All information would be greatly appreciated as i am trying to gather an idea of what i would expect of my different transfer options.

    Cheers.

    BMax.
    British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
    Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

    [As the British flag comes down]

    Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

  • #2
    Someone has to do it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by The Blue Max View Post
      Would this have been done much before transfers that is from inf to the MPs?

      It would usually be the other way round.
      Last edited by FMolloy; 2 August 2007, 20:50.
      Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kermit
        Do you enjoy impersonating traffic cones?
        What do you mean traffic cone?

        MPs do intensive and important training.

        They learn such realy important things like........

        ......... how to be a moblie roundabout.

        ......... how to direct traffic on a straight road

        ......... how to make the most of publicity photos

        In the event of a large convoy requiring traffic controll they learn to keep out of everyones way.

        And just incase there should ever be a need they learn how to operate a field POL station. (God only knows why thats their responsibility)

        They are supposed to learn military law and lots of other stuff including

        Traffic controll, Check point operation, Driving, Dispatch rider, accident investigation, incident investigation and interview (interogation) techniques



        If you go in as a 3* you do a basic MP course ( I don't have details) and then get Cpl stripes. You also get disowned by all your mates that you trained with previously.

        I think that should give you enough useful info.

        And I must agree with paul. The transfere direction for MPs is out.
        Last edited by luchi; 2 August 2007, 10:53.
        Without supplies no army is brave.

        —Frederick the Great,

        Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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        • #5
          transfering into the MPs as a three star means you must under go your probationers course which can take anything fron 6months to 1 year. If you transfer from an infantry unit it can take longer because the edges have to be knocked of you, your taught to talk to people not shout and scream at them(a quite word in someones ear can normally save a lot of hassle later ) .Part of your training will be a refresher in your basic infantry skills and weapons handling ,foot drill, arms drill because a large percentage of duties will involve some sort of ceremonial aspect (gpo easter sunday ,arbour hill ,garden of rememberance ,aras etc).you probationer course covers all aspects of military law and civilian law and its affect on military personnel and property.you cover the taking of statements ,interviewing witnesses & suspects, crime scene preservation and crime investiagtion and all documents and forms that go with that,your taught map reading(the correct way) navigation and route signing ,planning and recce . your taught traffic control +pointsman duties(know as mobile r/about to the less informed ) your taught the importance of convoys (packets& serials, movement charts) and much more. transfers are always welcome theres a lot of people transfer in after finding themselves stagnent in their own units with no chance of promotion due to the who you know not what you know rule that seems to apply in some units .hope that helps a little

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          • #6
            transfering into the MPs as a three star means you must under go your probationers course which can take anything fron 6months to 1 year
            What happens those transferring in as NCO? Do they keep their rank?
            "Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best for the cause by editing a newspaper"
            Gen. Robert E. Lee

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            • #7
              Wow Thanks mic , The Info is brilliant! In the reserve is the probationers course ran over a few weeks similiar to the pots or throughout the year during you field days.

              Thanks for the information you provided its perfect and is a big help to me.

              Is there any prospects within the MPs of intergration with there PDF affiliated unit in the future or is this already happening?

              Best Wishes.

              BMax.
              British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
              Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

              [As the British flag comes down]

              Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mic View Post
                transfering into the MPs as a three star means you must under go your probationers course which can take .... transfers are always welcome theres a lot of people transfer in after finding themselves stagnent in their own units with no chance of promotion due to the who you know not what you know rule that seems to apply in some units .hope that helps a little

                I take it your reffering to the rdf
                Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                Are full of passionate intensity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mic View Post
                  transfering into the MPs as a three star means you must under go your probationers course which can take anything fron 6months to 1 year. If you transfer from an infantry unit it can take longer because the edges have to be knocked of you, your taught to talk to people not shout and scream at them(a quite word in someones ear can normally save a lot of hassle later ) .Part of your training will be a refresher in your basic infantry skills and weapons handling ,foot drill, arms drill because a large percentage of duties will involve some sort of ceremonial aspect (gpo easter sunday ,arbour hill ,garden of rememberance ,aras etc).you probationer course covers all aspects of military law and civilian law and its affect on military personnel and property.you cover the taking of statements ,interviewing witnesses & suspects, crime scene preservation and crime investiagtion and all documents and forms that go with that,your taught map reading(the correct way) navigation and route signing ,planning and recce . your taught traffic control +pointsman duties(know as mobile r/about to the less informed ) your taught the importance of convoys (packets& serials, movement charts) and much more. transfers are always welcome theres a lot of people transfer in after finding themselves stagnent in their own units with no chance of promotion due to the who you know not what you know rule that seems to apply in some units .hope that helps a little
                  Well done Mic, a good explaination. I agree with Luchi on one point - you do get disowned by your mates when you join the MPs. They may feel there is a spy in the camp.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Blue Max View Post
                    Wow Thanks mic , The Info is brilliant! In the reserve is the probationers course ran over a few weeks similiar to the pots or throughout the year during you field days.

                    Thanks for the information you provided its perfect and is a big help to me.

                    Is there any prospects within the MPs of intergration with there PDF affiliated unit in the future or is this already happening?

                    Best Wishes.

                    BMax.
                    Yes, there is/will be RDF intergrated PAs, not sure if it has happened yet.

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                    • #11
                      Thats great dev this is good to know thanks.

                      BMax.
                      British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
                      Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

                      [As the British flag comes down]

                      Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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                      • #12
                        1) not really your mates if they disown you are they? the reserve is a big organisation and with all such places advancement and promotion may have to be chased . the so called mates who believe there is a spy in the camp are probably the ones who feel that the MPs are out to get them anyway trust me when at a brigade shoot ,large excerise some silly bugger who gets pulled by the MPs probably would get have been pulled up by their own ncos long before . there's too much misunderstanding about what other units do eg infantry carry guns and shout alot ,cav are too lazy to walk, s&t drivers spend too much time sleeping in there vehicles +sigs are all computer geeks these are the common misconceptions about other units but as someone who's worked with each of these units and found they all have one thing in common, that are a number of people who live up to the hype and are prime examples of all the above but the vast majority of people in these units are hard working and doing the best they can with what they have

                        2) yes i'm refering to the rdf

                        3) if you tranfer in as a nco you keep your rank providing there a position for that rank in the unit but you still have to undergo the probationers training to qualify for you redcap

                        4)there is a section of rdf mp's from the south ,west and east who have been intergrated.some with more sucess that others but its still early days for the whole intergration system and as with all things new it will improve. intergration seems to work better when the rdf and pdf units already had a good working relationship even before intergration was introduced.

                        4)the probationers course is normally run on training nights and field days as required and ends with a 24 or 48 hour excrise called operation redcap where all the training is tested evaluated and examined .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mic View Post
                          14)there is a section of rdf mp's from the south ,west and east who have been intergrated.some with more sucess that others but its still early days for the whole intergration system and as with all things new it will improve. intergration seems to work better when the rdf and pdf units already had a good working relationship even before intergration was introduced..
                          In terms of the duties done in the PDF MP Coy, I personally think that there is the
                          best chance of successful integration between PDF and RDF personnel in this
                          Integration thingy-ma-jig.

                          Integration seems to be meeting with success in Tpt aswell, although to varying degrees,
                          according to Bde, from what I 'm hearing.

                          Ditto with the Cav.
                          "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                          • #14
                            The AD units seem to have done quite well also.

                            An the award for those who integrate the best has to go to the NSR.
                            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mic View Post
                              1) not really your mates if they disown you are they? the reserve is a big organisation and with all such places advancement and promotion may have to be chased . the so called mates who believe there is a spy in the camp are probably the ones who feel that the MPs are out to get them anyway trust me when at a brigade shoot ,large excerise some silly bugger who gets pulled by the MPs probably would get have been pulled up by their own ncos long before .
                              The dis-owning happens when people transfer. It is more to do with inter corp rivalry and espree de corps than anything else. Lighten up will you.

                              there's too much misunderstanding about what other units do eg infantry carry guns and shout alot ,cav are too lazy to walk, s&t drivers spend too much time sleeping in there vehicles +sigs are all computer geeks these are the common misconceptions
                              Not misconscptions but conceptions deliberately promoted in the interests of inter-corpr rivalry "My units better than yours"

                              Do you really take yourself that seriously?
                              Without supplies no army is brave.

                              —Frederick the Great,

                              Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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