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  • Defence Annual Output Statement [ 26 Jul 07 ]

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    Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan
    Last edited by Goldie fish; 13 August 2007, 20:33.
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    Some interesting info., mostly in the Annexes, as the document itself is full of modern management-speak.

    Is it the case that most of the ATCP missions date from the time of the 'Troubles' in the North? If so, they are probably overdue for review. Presumably this will form part of the preparation of the new White Paper?

    The average duration of an Air Corps CASA fisheries protection patrol was roughly 6 hours. Given that most of the fishing activity under surveillance takes place off the south and west coasts, how much flying time and fuel costs could be saved by basing the aircraft at Shannon or Cork instead of Baldonnel?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by carrington View Post


      The average duration of an Air Corps CASA fisheries protection patrol was roughly 6 hours. Given that most of the fishing activity under surveillance takes place off the south and west coasts, how much flying time and fuel costs could be saved by basing the aircraft at Shannon or Cork instead of Baldonnel?

      Most likely no saving at all, to be honest, the need to have people in Shannon or Cork looking after the aircraft separate from those in Bal' would probably outweigh the fuel and time saved.
      it would be a bit like having 3 committees running 3 separate airports with 3 boards of management and 3 chairpersons, when one would do.......oh wait, hang on a sec..
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      • #4
        Originally posted by carrington View Post
        Is it the case that most of the ATCP missions date from the time of the 'Troubles' in the North? If so, they are probably overdue for review. Presumably this will form part of the preparation of the new White Paper?
        CIT escorts ?
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        • #5
          Each operation is undertaken at the request of the Gardai, ATCP ops will carry on as long as the Garda believe there is a threat (from terrorists/criminals). End of

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DeV View Post
            Each operation is undertaken at the request of the Gardai, ATCP ops will carry on as long as the Garda believe there is a threat (from terrorists/criminals). End of
            Given that the DF appears willing to provide these services, and the taxpayers continue to foot the bill - in most cases unknowingly - what incentive is there for the Gardai to cancel any of them? In other words, what is driving efficiency in this area? The British Army have formally ended their operations in Northern Ireland. Isn't it time we looked again at activities that date from the 1970s?

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            • #7
              2006 2007 2008

              CIT Escorts 2271 2291 2210
              Prisoner Escorts 114 100 118
              EOD Callouts 77 97 180
              Explosives Escorts 88 35 18
              ATCP Air Missions 283 2011 2185
              Public Building Security (Government Buildings Dublin) 365 365 366
              Public Building Patrols (by E Bde Stand to) 312 730 732
              Central Bank Security 365 365 366
              Central Bank Patrols (by E Bde Stand to) 730 730 732
              Portlaoise Prison Security 730 730 366
              Prisoner in Hospital Guards 6 4 0
              Explosives Factory Security 365 365 366
              Shannon Airport Security Duties 154 304 113
              Shannon Airport Patrols (from Limerick) 26 172 22
              Visiting Ships 2 2 0
              ESB Power Installation Ballyshannon Security 334 366 366
              Fuel Storage Facilities Patrols 12 9 7
              Other 14 0 0
              NS Salmon Patrols 7 8 5
              NS Guard Ship Duties 3 2 1
              NS Drug Interdiction Ops (JTF) 3 4 5
              NS Shannon Security Ops 3 0 0
              NS Support to Garda Water Unit 0 0 1

              No of Ceremonial Events 32 34 35
              No of Personnel 8788 5505 7383

              Band Engagements 531 515 272

              NS Fleet Patrol Days 1658 1661 1658
              NS Fisheries Sightings 2452 2559 2405
              NS Fisheries Boardings 1897 1846 1920
              NS Fisheries Warnings 148 76 104
              NS Fisheries Detentions 19 18 27

              NSDS Ops 9 95 34
              NSDS Days 34 68 51

              NS Foreign Visits 6 9 8

              AC MATS Missions 352 402 241
              AC MATS Flight Hrs 1092 1123 744
              AC Air Ambulance Missions 90 98 87
              AC Air Ambulance Flight Hrs 265 270 253
              AC GASU Missions 2325 2011 2185
              AC GASU Flight Hrs 2218 1812 2117
              AC Maritime Patrols Missions 280 235 300
              AC Maritime Patrols Flight Hrs 1520 1425 1666
              AC CIT Overwatch Missions (not broken down in 2006/7) 0 0 264
              AC CIT Overwatch Flight Hrs 0 0 636
              AC SAR Missions 0 0 6
              AC SAR Flight Hrs 0 0 15
              AC Other Missions (PR, civil, VIP) 0 0 220
              AC Other Flight Hrs (PR, civil, VIP) 0 0 397

              No of Personnel served overseas during year 2192 1634 1988

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