Just a thought: would the Naval Service be better equipped with a small, light sub-machine gun, rather than an assault rifle such as the Steyr? Something like the H&K MP7...
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Originally posted by carrington View PostJust a thought: would the Naval Service be better equipped with a small, light sub-machine gun, rather than an assault rifle such as the Steyr? Something like the H&K MP7...Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!
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not that expensive
Originally posted by paul View PostThey probably would, but it all comes back to cost.
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The Army were going to get the P90 to replace the Gustaf but decided against it due the obviouse issues with adding another caliber round to the supply chain and because the Steyr has a decent full auto capability. The aug has shorther barrel lengths available and can be converted to 9mm so why go out and spend all the money on MP7's? Also it's not just the cost of the guns its the rounds, parts and training not to mention time consumed in doing it all.
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Just a couple of clarifications...
The MP7 can fire semi-auto or full-auto, same as the Steyr. The big advantage is that the weapon is much smaller and lighter, and therefore more convenient - I would have thought - for use by a naval boarding party.
The problem with 9mm is that it can be stopped by body armour. The MP7's round will penetrate body armour at up to 200m.
For example, the UK MOD police are now armed exclusively with the MP7, replacing the Browning 9mm pistol, the MP5 SMG, and the SA80.
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Lots of sailors use 9mm SMGs with specialised frangible rounds. Some even use 5.56mm but I think it's more of a case of the Naval Service would let it be known if they felt they needed the kit.
SMGs are not hugely expensive in the grand scheme of things so I suspect if the need was felt it would be answered fairly promptly."It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostWhy get an smg if you are only going to fire single shot? Pistols are more appropriate, and safer to manage during boardings.
It seems to be the case that 9mm is obsolescent, because it can't penetrate body armour.
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Originally posted by carrington View PostBut why does the NS have Steyrs at all then?"The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."
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Originally posted by Muzzle View PostThe Army were going to get the P90 to replace the Gustaf but decided against it due the obviouse issues with adding another caliber round to the supply chain and because the Steyr has a decent full auto capability. The aug has shorther barrel lengths available and can be converted to 9mm so why go out and spend all the money on MP7's? Also it's not just the cost of the guns its the rounds, parts and training not to mention time consumed in doing it all."There is nothing braver then the heart of a volunteer" Lt. Col. Dolittle, USAC, 1941.
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Originally posted by carrington View PostBut why does the NS have Steyrs at all then?
It seems to be the case that 9mm is obsolescent, because it can't penetrate body armour.Im Ron Burgendy??
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