Living with the USP (Split from Pistol Poll)

[hptmurphy Commander in Chief Find all posts View Profile Close hptmurphy]

You and Goldie apparently

I agreed with sticking by the book on the statement .

Because of the inherent possibility of somebody trying something from outside the realms of the written official type document on the weapon I would merely suggest that deviating from the manual is not the best practise in this case.

It might be safe in theory and even in practise but I certainly wouldn't be giving credence to alternatives to what the DF accepts as best practise especially in light of the possibilties of what I have witnessed by some who are alledgedly supposed to lead by example.

Or maybe I'm getting boring in my old age ...but the imortality mode is begining to wear out a bit...

[Muzzle Lieutenant Find all posts View Profile Close Muzzle]

Please don't judge them all by those stupid enough to add a hole to the floor.

Or in the roof as was the case with a certain female...

[Groundhog Chief of the Diet Tribe Find all posts View Profile Close Groundhog]

Because of the inherent possibility of somebody trying something from outside the realms of the written official type document on the weapon I would merely suggest that deviating from the manual is not the best practise in this case...

I agree, but, as you say, the manual doesn't mention thumb cocking.

[hptmurphy Commander in Chief Find all posts View Profile Close hptmurphy]

Please don't judge them all by those stupid enough to add a hole to the floor

The incidents I refer to were at an actual range practise and not an 'indoor event' where some body obviously hadn't read the manual or even opened the book.

The incidents you are thinking of were BAP related and resultant of someone using a loaded magazine to let the slide go forward after removing it to check the breech was clear..replacing the magazine in order to let the slide forward..and firing the action without realising they had chambered around by leting the slide go forward with a magazine in situ

Then deciding to release the action..while it is possible to do so using the decocking lever on the USP and is part of the practise..it wasn't a feature of the BAP...attempting to decock a BAP with round in chamber using the trigger is hardly an approved method!

[California Tanker My tank is bigger... Find all posts View Profile Close California Tanker]

attempting to decock a BAP with round in chamber using the trigger is hardly an approved method!

The manual for my Hi-Power says it is.

Granted, the Irish Hi-Power may not have been entirely the same internally.

NTM

[hptmurphy Commander in Chief Find all posts View Profile Close hptmurphy]

Round in chamber...safety catch disengaged.....uncontrolled release of the hammer by using the trigger with magazine in place equals bang!

The manual for my Hi-Power says it is

Yes if you control the release of the hammer...but I reckon this was furthest from the mind of the person carrying out the action

[California Tanker My tank is bigger... Find all posts View Profile Close California Tanker]

Oh, OK. I see where you're coming from. Solely using the trigger.

NTM

[trellheim Lord Chief Bottlewasher Find all posts View Profile Close trellheim]

Finally fired this weekend. Nice weapon.

[ZULU Teuton Foot Soldier Find all posts View Profile Close ZULU]

Did some training on it recently. Bit fiddly in my opnion. Fired Glock 45, Taurus 27/7, Sig 226. All nice easy and simple. But with familiarisation I suppose I can live with it

[Goldie fish Tim Horgan Find all posts View Profile Close Goldie fish]

Fiddly? Your hands must be too big..

[Muzzle Lieutenant Find all posts View Profile Close Muzzle]

Very surprised you found it fiddly although alot of people struggle with the mag release for some reason.

[ZULU Teuton Foot Soldier Find all posts View Profile Close ZULU]

Hands? Oven Gloves would be a more appropriate term.

I keep trying to change the safety lever with the first joint of my thumb, not great dexterity there. I cant bring my thumb back far enough to use the tip or side of the pad.

I guess its down to the way I hold a pistol, ala Todd Jarrett method. Thumbs along slide pointing at target, square on, arms straight. Its worked well for me over my pistol experience versus other methods so want to try and stick with it and improve on it.

Other than that, the weapons good. Again, I'll just overcome and adapt! LOL

[Barry Lt General Find all posts View Profile Close Barry]

Hands? Oven Gloves would be a more appropriate term.

[Bam Bam 2/Lt Find all posts View Profile Close Bam Bam]

Got my hands on the USP myself there and the magazine release is a bit of an issue.

Its difficult enough to reach.

[Muzzle Lieutenant Find all posts View Profile Close Muzzle]

Got my hands on the USP myself there and the magazine release is a bit of an issue.

Its difficult enough to reach.

If yu can reach the trigger you can reach the mag release and it takes less pressure then the likes of a glock or a sig but it has to be a delebrate action they way its done so no accidental dumps.