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  • Itchy
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    One chapter dedicated to why you no longer need to stick your finger into the pistol.

    I wonder will it reduce the casualties of guardroom roofs and floors?
    Something tells me that not even a new manual will stop some culchie BOS demonstrating his skills to a mate in a Kilworth billet and putting one in the roof...

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  • Goldie fish
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    One chapter dedicated to why you no longer need to stick your finger into the pistol.

    I wonder will it reduce the casualties of guardroom roofs and floors?


    How long before we begin to bemoan the demise of our beloved bap, and long for its return, as the new pistol is "only a toy, and doesn't feel like a real pistol"?

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  • hedgehog
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    New manual? How hard can it be?

    "Put bullets in gun. Rack slide. Move from 'S' to 'F'. Aim at target. Pull trigger"
    Us lads are a bit different

    the Manual for us informs us of the capabilities of the weapon

    The newer type manuals also tend to impart doctrinal policy

    on how and when to use the weapon

    maybe we are a bit dumb, but wouldnt you rather we were called dumb

    than ever have to say

    Dude this means jail

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  • Muzzle
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    Originally posted by California Tanker View Post
    New manual? How hard can it be?

    "Put bullets in gun. Rack slide. Move from 'S' to 'F'. Aim at target. Pull trigger"

    NTM
    Well to be fair, double action and the decocker will be a big change for many who have only used the BAP.

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  • California Tanker
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    New manual? How hard can it be?

    "Put bullets in gun. Rack slide. Move from 'S' to 'F'. Aim at target. Pull trigger"

    NTM

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  • apod
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    Good phot of the new pistol on the df intranet in the d trg page.Also afaik the Infantry weapons wing are in the process of writing the new manual for same thats why it hasnt been issued yet.

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  • The real Jack
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    The P8 variant of the USP is the one adapted for the Bundeswehr (and is I assume the model we are getting) it has a slightly different safety.
    USP with standard safety: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HK_USP-CT.jpg
    P8 with modified safety: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Km2000.jpg

    From th HK website
    HECKLER & KOCH P8 - THE SERVICE PISTOL OF THE FEDERAL GERMAN ARMED FORCES

    Upon exhaustive comparative trials, the Federal German Armed Forces selected the P8 as the best weapon and adopted it as their service weapon.

    It differs from the USP particularly by the following features:

    * P8 – specific arrangement of the safety and de-cocking lever
    * Transparent magazine with special dust protection
    * Barrel with lands-and grooves profile
    Last edited by The real Jack; 3 February 2007, 21:55.

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  • Truck Driver
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    I was just thinking with the new issue of pistols coming up, what can the RDF units expect to be issued ?
    The same as the PDF, I'd imagine, as the BAP's are being withdrawn on
    a number of grounds, the obvious one being the age of the
    weapons

    As the number of pistols is quite small and drivers and other
    such personnel in the PDF overseas are currently using Steyrs.
    In the Cav, they have started issuing short barrels for the Steyrs so that they can
    be manoeuvred through the hatches of the armoured cars. As featured a few
    months ago in An Cosantóir, in the article on 4 Cav Sqn.The primary weapon
    of armoured crewmen the world over is still the pistol though.

    is it wise to issue such items to RDF?
    Please don't tell me this is a PDF bashing RDF comment.

    I know this will be a hot topic but i just want to see what the general thought is on such matters.
    Stnadardisation is cheaper all around.
    One uniform
    One weapon, etc...

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  • holdfast
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    issue of pistols

    I was just thinking with the new issue of pistols coming up, what can the RDF units expect to be issued ?

    As the number of pistols is quite small and drivers and other such personnel in the PDF overseas are curenlty using styers, is it wise to issue such items to RDF.

    I know this will be a hot topic but i just want to see what the general thought is on such matters.

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  • FMolloy
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    I tried it with the duty holster, but the internal dimensions of the drop-leg are identical.

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  • apod
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    Which holster from the store did you try it with?

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  • FMolloy
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    The Custom Sport has the same dimensions as the USP9.

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  • Muzzle
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    It was a USP 9mm Custom Sport whcih is as close to what they got as possible id say (guessing that they got the mil versipn of the USP9)
    Last edited by Muzzle; 15 January 2007, 17:55.

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  • Goldie fish
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    I'm glad I bought my holster from the store and not protac then...

    Oh wait...


    CRAP!

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  • FMolloy
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    Having had a look at a civvy USP over the weekend, I can assure everyone that the holsters available from the store with fit it.

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