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  • #91
    Originally posted by luchi View Post
    Sorry but to me this looks like training for the sake of training.

    May as well create a syllabus to play golf.

    Currently there is a Tpt SSO working very hard a couple of days a month to ensure all things tpt happen. It is a job that needs to be donne and is greatly benifitting units and not just in the east.


    There are plenty of such posts that would benifit the RDF as a whole.

    Quatermasters that could be doing 1 day a month to ensure all the coy are clothed is just 1 job that spring to mind.

    But you would suggest that the CQ be on a powerpoint course for a week????

    As for Grat, well the rules for getting grat are made up by the MA and can be changed. All it takes is the will to change.
    We are talking about a situation where for example you have the following on a camp with say 150-200 privates & JNCOs..... you also have:

    4 x Commandants (1 is Camp Commandant)
    8 x Captains (1 for Trg, 1 for Logs Admin, 1 as Adjt)
    12 x Lts (5 are platoon commanders)
    3 x CSs (1 is camp CS)
    4 x CQs (1 is camp CQ)

    There are 31 people on a camp but only 11 actually have a job to do. What do we do with the rest? Pay them to do horizontal admin for a week? No .... run a course/brain storming session for them.

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    • #92
      What we do is DO NOT LET THEM GO ON CAMP. Their AT can happen any time, we are trying to get away from monolithic AT and actually get serious work done.
      "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

      "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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      • #93
        Originally posted by DeV View Post
        4 x Commandants (1 is Camp Commandant)
        8 x Captains (1 for Trg, 1 for Logs Admin, 1 as Adjt)
        12 x Lts (5 are platoon commanders)
        3 x CSs (1 is camp CS)
        4 x CQs (1 is camp CQ).
        As trell says but I would say they should have used up their mandays constructively during the year. All the brainstorming should have been done.

        BTW recent research shows brainstorming is only useful to develope idead/plans
        If you want new ideas send then alone to climb a mountain.

        Is there not an admin element to the various syllibi?
        1 day used per month for 7 months. Mandays used. Grat earned. now you have 20 extra beds to run another course for others.!!!!
        Last edited by luchi; 4 May 2010, 18:59.
        Without supplies no army is brave.

        —Frederick the Great,

        Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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        • #94
          Not a bad idea if it were to happen!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by GodBlessS&T View Post
            Meaning what exactly......?
            Holy Jaysus ! Haven't seen you posting on here in YEARS !!!
            "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
              Holy Jaysus ! Haven't seen you posting on here in YEARS !!!
              I'm still at it. Have to wonder why though.

              So what does that comment mean then?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by GodBlessS&T View Post
                I'm still at it. Have to wonder why though.

                So what does that comment mean then?
                Exactly what it says - I can' t remember the last time seeing you post...
                "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Poiuyt
                  My Warning to all RDF - Get your Military CVs together and sorted......you are going to need them in the next year.....

                  assuming the worst doesn't happen.
                  I mean what does this comment mean?

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by GodBlessS&T View Post
                    I mean what does this comment mean?
                    Ah sorry....
                    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                    • Originally posted by GodBlessS&T View Post
                      I mean what does this comment mean?
                      It means get your military CV organised and you may be lucky if it is a good CV.

                      Worst case scenario, it will make no difference.

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                      • Are you channeling Nostradamus or what ?
                        "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                        "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                        • i was running the intergration for a dublin PDF unit. the work load i put in for the RDF lads was unbelivable, booking of lands, training programs, booking tpt, wep, rations, training rooms etc. then going to the CQ and getting them all the new backpack, battal vest, day sack and helmet and what happens 3 people turned up. so lads where is the commitment

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                          • Were the rest told about it?


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • Originally posted by conn View Post
                              i was running the intergration for a dublin PDF unit. the work load i put in for the RDF lads was unbelivable, booking of lands, training programs, booking tpt, wep, rations, training rooms etc. then going to the CQ and getting them all the new backpack, battal vest, day sack and helmet and what happens 3 people turned up. so lads where is the commitment
                              Conn is right. The problems are not all one sided. We in the RDF need to work a hell of lot on our commitment. There is nothing more frustrating than putting a lot of effort into organising a training event and then have the people who committed to turning up just not bothering.

                              Goldie has a point though, communication through the normal military channels does not work.

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                              • Are the results of the Integration survey ever going to be published?
                                "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

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