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    Some on the board reckon that were generally carrying too much, so what i wanted to find out is what you are carrying in your webbing pouches? Some people swear that you have to fit rain gear and spare clothing in there somewhere, personally i find that the bare minimm suits me best because ive never been away from my bergen for an extended period of time on exercise.

    I met a guy recently who had his webbing packed full of stuff, and could see the logic in that as well. But what i wanted to find out is exactly what most of you would carry as standard in your webbing?
    Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

  • #2
    Water, Slaughter, survival tin, gas cooker, a torch and 24hr rations.
    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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    • #3
      Some units are issuing camelbaks now, i used to have one on my webbing but got rid of it because it the bergin doesn't sit right. I think they intend it to go in a rocket pouch.
      Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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      • #4
        See the "Good tips " in the kit section for some ideas.:wink:
        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by apod View Post
          See the "Good tips " in the kit section for some ideas.:wink:
          Best ask joshua!!
          Go Mairidís Beo

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          • #6
            Just whatever you do, dont do a site search.
            Support the Search Function.

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            • #7
              All you need is Water & Slaughter. Worst mistake you can do is be impressed by people who go on about how "I can fit a trombone, 2 rolls of lino and my DPM mess tins all on my webbing". The very same people who carry the most stuff are the people that will be trailing behind when moving beyond a snails pace or else will develop phantom injuries with miraculous recovery periods.
              "Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"

              "Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand next to the object you wish to view."

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              • #8
                Depends what your doin id reckon,, pack for the mission,, tactics pack light and tactical,, gaurd something warm water gorp and something to entertain yourself!!! after that leave it light as someone will no doubt learn the hard way and need kit taken off them,,happens every time we go for a walk in the long grass!!!

                Escort lose the res haversack and keep pouchs empty if ya can so your comfy in the wagon and still able to move quick.

                Personnally i always over pack and iv no prob with it because il packed it so I WILL carry it!!!!

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                • #9
                  cooking gear / food
                  first aid
                  water
                  tac-aids stuff


                  but if you are going on the ground for a couple of hours bitch slap the webbings
                  and take all the shit out
                  hurry up and wait, are you back yet

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                  • #10
                    basically too much S**t

                    ammo, water, 24 hour rations, bivvie stuff, mess tin, tiny gas cooker, first aid kit, rain gear if I'm made carry that in it too
                    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by paul View Post
                      basically too much S**t

                      ammo, water, 24 hour rations, bivvie stuff, mess tin, tiny gas cooker, first aid kit, rain gear if I'm made carry that in it too
                      In your Webbelt and on your person? That seems like alot!!!
                      I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

                      Please PM me to correct me.

                      But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

                      I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dazzler View Post
                        In your Webbelt and on your person? That seems like alot!!!
                        that's just my cefo

                        and i can still run more with it on than most people with not even half that, I'm not bragging or anything
                        Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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                        • #13
                          I don't carry anything in my webbing because.... I use a Battle Vest


                          *Runs away*

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chief Bubblewrap View Post
                            Some on the board reckon that were generally carrying too much, so what i wanted to find out is what you are carrying in your webbing pouches? Some people swear that you have to fit rain gear and spare clothing in there somewhere, personally i find that the bare minimm suits me best because ive never been away from my bergen for an extended period of time on exercise.

                            I met a guy recently who had his webbing packed full of stuff, and could see the logic in that as well. But what i wanted to find out is exactly what most of you would carry as standard in your webbing?
                            Firstly - Define CEFO
                            Are you talking about the 1991 manual of PLCE which states CEFO is belt order only?
                            Or are you referring to the more common practice today of carrying a daysack as part of the CEFO - a practice reinforced by the fact that in IPLCS, the daysack IS part of the CEFO?

                            Secondly, Are you talking about RDF? Integrated RDF? or PDF? (each carries different items)

                            Thirdly, I don't use the large Utility pouch. I went out and bought my own - 3 small utility across the back. I hate the Large pouch - it never sits right, bounces all over the place and drags down the back of the webbing.

                            I also carry stuff in my Smock - do you want a list of those?

                            Personally, I am mission specific. I have certain items that I must always carry no matter what - 1L Water (with steel mug & Puritabs), ammo (also 7.62mm ammo) & Grenades and Rifle cleaning kit (pull through, oil & flannelette only). Being Integrated, I also carry batteries for Marconis & NVE. If I suspect I may be out at night, I also carry a head torch. I have a crusader cook system - the lightweight cooker attaches to my steel mug - little weight and very small so I leave it there.

                            Being Integrated, I am also expected to carry a Daysack. Here I pack the bulky items - Ordnance (NVE & More ammo), Wetgear & Warm top, brew kit, Spare Driflo & socks & spare water. 2 years ago I had a fairly basic admin in the field - samething that never really got tested. Since going Integrated, I have had to nearly completely replace every item in my CEMO - every has to be lightweight, lack bulk, survive water and should be IRR.

                            Basically, CEFO is fighting order - what you need to fight. What I carry allows me to stay on the ground for a day and part of the night. Worse case scenario, I can live in it for 24hrs but only in an emergency. I have found it light enough and flexible. Then again, if I know I am only going out for a day - 6 hrs of section or platoon in attack, I drop a few items - never the dry/wet routine items - it is Ireland.

                            My CEFO is light. Very light in comparison to some I've seen. Most of the time I don't really notice it is there (ammo being usually the heaviest item) and the daysack is pretty comfortable so the bulky items don't weight down on me. In my younger days, I used to pack more stuff into the belt order and this resulted in the back of the belt order getting heavy and pulling at the front. What I wear now is very comfortable & lightweight.

                            I get a good amount of time on the ground - more than most. 1 major problem I have found with the PDF issue Daysack - there are no side pockets etc. to stuff ammo into. Having done tactics side by side with the PDF, it is a major failing as you usually have to start opening the daysack lid to store spare ammo - this is time consuming and usually means standing up. It just got very awkward in attacks. Other daysacks usually have small side pockets which were easy to get at.
                            Last edited by Docman; 15 October 2008, 00:54.

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                            • #15
                              Pre IPLCE there were three categories
                              CEFO - Belt kit and pockets
                              Reduced CEMO - Belt kit, pockets and rocket pouches
                              CEMO - Everything

                              I only had a brief glimpse at the new IPLCE descriptions and there appears to be four categories now. However as I can't remember what they are I am not going to guess.

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