Irish Army Respirator before Gs86

[Docman]

Does anyone have any info and pics on the Respirator we had before the Gs86 (Isreali type) Respirator?

I think it was the French M51 but am not sure.

Also, Can someone confirm that the WWII Respirator was the British Mk V?

[Joshua]

No idea but found THIS site, incredible difference between the one Hedgehog and Groundhog used when they signed up and the ones they have use of today.

[hptmurphy]

S10 was in service in the arly 80's

[DeV]

Not sure if this was on issue but I've seen something very similar to this in stores: http://bovecs.wingisp.com/fullfacerespirator.html

[golden rivet]

Not sure if this was on issue but I've seen something very similar to this in stores: http://bovecs.wingisp.com/fullfacerespirator.html

yes thats the one we had from the 80s to the 2000s

[Truck Driver]

Not sure if this was on issue but I've seen something very similar to this in stores: http://bovecs.wingisp.com/fullfacerespirator.html

Just read the bumf on the website on this respirator:

Usable in all fields of activity where respirator is required and safety
precaution in case of emergency.
Suitable protection against virus, bacteria's, mists, fire, smoke, riots,
chemicals, gas and particles.
Protect face in cold weather conditions

You'd look well walking through the middle of Dublin on a wintry day wearing that !!!

[Groundhog]

fire smoke
germs, bacteria's and virus
solvent agents

90% of people who lost their life's in fire, die from smoke inhalation.
A full face respirator is a needed complement to fire extinguisher and fire alarm.

:confused:

It was always my understanding that a respirator is useless against smoke since smoke replaces the oxygen in the air so even if you wear a respirator you'll asphyxiate anyway rather than be poisoned.

And Joshua, I was first issued with the that green respirator not the Tommy flannel bag.

It went out of service in about 1988.

On the other hand Hedgehog really is that old.

[Barry]

A respirator is just a filter - if there's no oxygen in the air (either through being consumed by fire, or being displaced by another gas) you're fecked.

[Docman]

It was always my understanding that a respirator is useless against smoke since smoke replaces the oxygen in the air so even if you wear a respirator you'll asphyxiate anyway rather than be poisoned.

Not quite correct. Smoke is merely particles of ash etc. in the air that give it a grey appearance. A Respirator filter will filter them out easily. It is the lack of Oxygen & myriad of other toxic gases that accompany smoke that kills you.

yes thats the one we had from the 80s to the 2000s

No it isn't. From 1986ish to 2002 we had what we called the Gs86. The rest of the world called it the Israeli M15.



From 2002, we have been using the FM-12 (improved version of the S-10). What I am looking for is info & pics on the one before the Gs86.

[Docman]

Finally tracked down a number of pics. Most are grainy, bad quality or low res but got 1 beaut.

Obviously from this pic (DF Ordnance Corp from about mid 1980), it is the same respirator as mentioned way up at the top of this thread but this pic shows it being used in the DF - The Swedish Skyddsmask 51 - A licence built copy of the US M9A1.

Thanks for the help.

[Connaught Stranger]

Just read the bumf on the website on this respirator:

Protect face in cold weather conditions

You'd look well walking through the middle of Dublin on a wintry day wearing that !!!

I remember wearing one, (less the filter) in the month of February 1978 while being in the open turret of a Panhard A.P.C. on a run from Finner to Letterkenny then to Lifford, then back to Finner Camp and damn glad of them, the only thing was to keep breaking the ice off the rubber section in front of the chin as it froze up frequently.

Connaught Stranger.

[Goldie fish]

These days we use scarfs and goggles

[Connaught Stranger]

These days we use scarfs and goggles

Obviously the current scarf is much better than the green brillo pad type of the 1970 - 1980's as for googles, Tally-Ho Biggles

[Goldie fish]

The rise in popularity of skiing holidays has added greatly to the variety of goggles in use by AFV crew..

[yooklid]

...the one Hedgehog and Groundhog used when they signed up...

???