Mess Dress Help

[RDF]

Just wondering where it is possible or does any one have a set of artillery collar badges for the mess dress.

[Docman]

Just wondering where it is possible or does any one have a set of artillery collar badges for the mess dress.

Officers Mess uniform does not have Collar Badges (except for chaplains).

Other Ranks Mess uniform uses the same collar badges as the SD No. 1 uniform.

Other than that, can't help

[colonel decker]

And a DPM name badge ?

[Slaphead]

Officers Mess uniform does not have Collar Badges (except for chaplains).

Other Ranks Mess uniform uses the same collar badges as the SD No. 1 uniform.

Other than that, can't help

Cav Corp Officers sometimes where Cav Club collar badges(smaller silver version of SD1 badges) with Mess dress

[Bravo20]

But they are not supposed to

[Barry]

Suppose they miss their glengarries, and don't like looking like everyone else.

[Docman]

But they are not supposed to

What he said!

[goc132]

is mess dress ever worn now. and I have never seen same in NCO's mess
enlighten me

[Docman]

is mess dress ever worn now. and I have never seen same in NCO's mess
enlighten me

Officers wear it semi regularly (more than they wear No1s).

Other ranks - well that is up to their particuliar messes.

[Truck Driver]

is mess dress ever worn now. and I have never seen same in NCO's mess
enlighten me

Enlisted ranks mess dress is usually (AFAIR) the SD No 1 uniform with white belt, or
sometimes without, white wing tip collar shirt with bow tie, with or without hat
(peaker for PDF) depending on the situation.

If you have a stash of An Cosantóir magazines, you will see it worn where there
is a member of the DF getting married in uniform (which you have to get permission
for)

[Docman]

Enlisted ranks mess dress is usually (AFAIR) the SD No 1 uniform with white belt, or
sometimes without, white wing tip collar shirt with bow tie, with or without hat
(peaker for PDF) depending on the situation.

A few mistakes.

SD uniform is worn. For Evening Black tie events, a Normal collar white Tuxedo shirt with Black bowtie. Day wear is black tie.
For white tie, it is white wing tip collar shirt with white bow tie
Outdoors, you wear white belt, white gloves & Peaker along with whatever uniform is appropriate to the formality of the occasion.

Uniform applies to PDF & RDF.

However, it is common practice to not have certain parts of the uniform (belt, gloves & peaker) as they can be difficult to get and may only be worn once but technically they should be.

[hedgehog]

A few mistakes.

SD uniform is worn. For Evening Black tie events, a Normal collar white Tuxedo shirt with Black bowtie. Day wear is black tie.
For white tie, it is white wing tip collar shirt with white bow tie
Outdoors, you wear white belt, white gloves & Peaker along with whatever uniform is appropriate to the formality of the occasion.

Uniform applies to PDF & RDF.

However, it is common practice to not have certain parts of the uniform (belt, gloves & peaker) as they can be difficult to get and may only be worn once but technically they should be.

Surely its a Uniform when its issued as a Uniform

and as such

There is NO issue white shirt- wing tip or other

NO issue Black tie

therefore if its NOT issued its NOT official wear

Mess Dress for enlisted personnel is simply a variant of SD No 2

SD Uniform- Khaki Shirt and Tie-
NO waist belt

[Docman]

Surely its a Uniform when its issued as a Uniform

:confused::confused::confused:

Hedgehog, I'm surprised at you. A uniform is a uniform because everyone wears the same thing - they are uniform. Something being issued or not does not make it a uniform.

There is NO issue white shirt- wing tip or other

NO issue Black tie

therefore if its NOT issued its NOT official wear

Mess Dress for enlisted personnel is simply a variant of SD No 2

SD Uniform- Khaki Shirt and Tie-
NO waist belt

Hedgehog
'A' Administrative Instruction Part 9, para 803 (Document is not RESTRICTED)
Mess Dress - Army & Air Corps, CS to Pte, male

Belt
Beret (cap where issued)
Gloves
Greatcoat
Shirt. Plain, White with collar
Shoes, Black, Leather, Laced
Socks, Black
Tie *
Trousers
Tunic

* 1.)Black Bow tie shall be worn at evening functions where formal dress with black tie is indicated
2.) Long black tie shall be worn at functions where morning dress is indicated

There is no mention of white tie functions - I was assuming it was the same as officers.

I also point out that the Officers Mess dress uniform also has several items which are not issued but are still expected to be worn so the precedent is there as well. Officers in Mess Dress have to have a white shirt, black bow tie, long black tie, white gloves etc etc. These are not issue items but they are still expected to have them.

I've attached a pic of the relevant page of the Administrative Instruction so you can see for yourself. The AI is old and some things have changed since them (such as DPM) but has not been updated.