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Over 60% of your costs are proposed to be spent on something the DF already has plenty of - rifles. While I could understand you throwing in an arbitrary figure for depreciation on items, the rifles (and the PLCE, for that matter) themselves are a sunk cost, and thus shouldn't be mixed in with the costs of clothing someone. It doesn't cost that much to clothe a reservist (even the one camp wonders), the biggest wastage is randomers tagging along to camps and doing SFA for a week or two weeks while drawing the same wage as those who are there training. Luckily there are measures in place to minimise this as much as possible.
Over 60% of your costs are proposed to be spent on something the DF already has plenty of - rifles. While I could understand you throwing in an arbitrary figure for depreciation on items, the rifles (and the PLCE, for that matter) themselves are a sunk cost, and thus shouldn't be mixed in with the costs of clothing someone. It doesn't cost that much to clothe a reservist (even the one camp wonders), .
I realise the costs of already purchased equipment is not applicable. It was only to highlight indicative costings.
In regards clothing. It does cost a fair bit. I have figures for a basic kit out of DPM clothing back in 2005/06. It comes to a few hundred euro.
Multiply that by 1000 people per year that we have seen being recruited and then discharged per year since 2003.
€1.5 million over 7 years is not something to be just dismissed.
the biggest wastage is randomers tagging along to camps and doing SFA for a week or two weeks while drawing the same wage as those who are there training. Luckily there are measures in place to minimise this as much as possible
There is in my arse measures to minimise this. Coy Cmdrs are bending over backwards to take as many people they can get their hands on so that they can maintain the outward look of a unit that is doing well, when in reality an Inf Coy is running at 20 active personnel out of 133
"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
€1.5 million over 7 years is not something to be just dismissed
The DF sees fit to spend 2.7 million a year on the wages of cadre staff Ptes who are serving without appointment, and 1 million a year on the horsie school. In the big picture of things, clothing a reservist isn't that big a deal.
The DF sees fit to spend 2.7 million a year on the wages of cadre staff Ptes who are serving without appointment, and 1 million a year on the horsie school. In the big picture of things, clothing a reservist isn't that big a deal.
Maybe that attitude to considering millions of euro chump change is why the DF have no money to pay for new naval vessels?
"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
My point is that the DF is going after a lot of smaller spending in an attempt to save money, when there are multi-million euro items that are ignored. PDF units are desperately short of Ptes in some cases, while the RDF is tying up 112 Ptes in cadre staff. There are PDF officers doing 2 or 3 jobs in some cases, while Lt Colonels are SWA with the RDF, and USAC still exists (though that's a completely different debate). Unfortunately it's easier to run the RDF into the ground than risk the wrath of PDFORRA or RACO going mental because a few cushy numbers are being removed. Penny wise - pound foolish.
Just ran a cursory check over lunch at my proposed reduction in cadre from the RDF, taking the rest would be transfered back into PDF units
So:
Taking a PDF cadre attached to the integrated reserve model as being
Lt Col x 1
Cmdt x 5
Capt x 9
Sgt Mjr x 1
CS x 7
CQMS x 21
Pte x 22
Total wage bill is uneffected as the other 355 cadre would be still getting paid being back in their PDF units
However, if you take a simplified view of allowances divided by cadre numbers it works out at €4,000 for allowances and €1,800 for mileage per cadre roughly.
Total SAVINGS per annum, to DF = €1,456,000 and €531,200 respectively
With introduction of Int Res model, Rural trg locations would be close with Reserve training carried out in permanently manned barracks with access to Grade 1 trg rooms, weapons etc.
Total SAVINGS per annum to DF = €140,500
Reduction in recruiting levels from 1,000 to 250 per annum with associated DPM kit out costs
Total SAVINGS per annum to DF = €225,000
Subhead D of DF Budget gives €4.7 million for 2010 in RDF pay. However the Minister states 31,000 mandays. This is a conflict that arises due to the vast top heavy nature of the RDF as it stands at present.
€4.7 million equates to 23 paid mandays per person in the Integrated Reserve model (2,656), right down from Officers to Ptes. This takes account of the different wage levels, 2 week gratuity, tech allowances and instructor pay
So not only does this model equal the numbers being paid a gratuity in the current model we have, but it also gives PDF units back more personnel, gives the Reserve more training
AND
Saves the over all DF budget €2,352,700 per annum
The catch -
You have to transfer 355 cadre back to PDF units
You have to let go 3,648 Reservists (including effective/non effective)
"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
Actually all officers can claim mileage if its an authorized journey. There are almost none of these left now. In addition you must get it put on your insurance that you are driving for DOD if you want to claim.
Actually all officers can claim mileage if its an authorized journey. There are almost none of these left now. In addition you must get it put on your insurance that you are driving for DOD if you want to claim.
It isn't an issue. Most policies include it, or can do at no extra charge, and driving for the DoD is not the same as driving as a sales rep or hackney.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
lt cdr appointment...still leaves us short a lt colonel....plus his outrageous expenses
fyi
originally posted by dev
cadre (may 09)
don't forget these figures also include rdf bde hqs (but is there 2 brigades within the south & west? Why 2 lt cols in each?)
dont know about the south, but in the west 1 lt col is bde oc, the other is oc of a unit (was promoted but retained appointment).
Nixer.
"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
FYI, Only Officers in the Cadre get mileage allowance. So, 650,000 divided by 49 = 13,265 per Officer per year in mileage. Nice little earner !
Nixer
Fark me....
What happened to using military transport ???!!!
Not all of these Cadre Officers are in non manned posts....
"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
Mileage is gone in my bit of the public service..we now get the equivalent public travel rate...bus fare or train ticket price for the journey..what you do with it is up to yourself.
On a trip to Cork from Kilkenny I just about break even petrol wise.
Put this in the changes and see the figures fall.
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