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  • RDFRA have a meeting with DoD and DF on 19th March on R5. Hopefully finalised R5 will be ready for signature by Minister


    https://twitter.com/rdfrepassoc/stat...606583810?s=21

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    • Their tweet sounds positive, short of the minister throwing a hissy fit.
      German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
      German 2: Private? I am a general!
      German 1: That is the bad news.

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      • Tenner on the bet that RDFRA have managed to negotiate a way out of Annual fitness tests and Course Qualification before promotions.
        'Cos that's worked out so well lately
        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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        • Tenner on the bet that RDFRA have managed to negotiate a way out of Annual fitness tests and Course Qualification before promotions.
          a fair point but we are in a pandemic too.

          However I've passed every IT i've ever done its just something you do and as leaders on this an example has to be set
          "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

          "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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          • Originally posted by apod View Post
            Tenner on the bet that RDFRA have managed to negotiate a way out of Annual fitness tests and Course Qualification before promotions.
            'Cos that's worked out so well lately
            I'll take that bet.

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            • I hope they haven't, will set us back years if they have.

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              • Originally posted by batterysgt View Post
                I hope they haven't, will set us back years if they have.
                RDFRA would never do such a thing!!
                What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                • Originally posted by odin View Post
                  rdfra would never do such a thing!! :-d :-d :-d :-d
                  swords!
                  German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                  German 2: Private? I am a general!
                  German 1: That is the bad news.

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                  • Someone should have sent round a draft of the new one for comment - being kept very close for what should be a fairly non-surprising document, there is very little change required ( Bring back the grat )
                    Last edited by trellheim; 12 March 2021, 10:22.
                    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                    • Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                      Someone should have sent round a draft of the new one for comment - being kept very close for what should be a fairly non-surprising document, there is very little change required ( Bring back the grat )
                      If we want a fit for purpose RDF there is massive changes required in R5

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                      • Originally posted by apod View Post
                        Tenner on the bet that RDFRA have managed to negotiate a way out of Annual fitness tests and Course Qualification before promotions.
                        'Cos that's worked out so well lately
                        Some in RDFRA would be looking for that... not all

                        But in fairness, they exist to look after all members interests (like all the Representative associations) not necessarily the same as the interests of the State (there is cross over in those interests obviously)
                        Last edited by DeV; 12 March 2021, 10:42.

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                        • From what I have seen and what I know of them RDFRA exist to serve their OWN interersts.
                          Spoken to a good few AR pers on the subject of the RDFRA submission to CODF. They are not impressed with the lack of consultation.
                          Quote "As usual they are only out for themselves".

                          Be interesting to see what happens but I reckon I am quids in.
                          "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                          • I saw a draft of R5 several months ago, put that point on here then. Not much change in that draft. I can compare to the new one when signed off. That draft was before current MOD was in place so it may well have changed for the better.
                            And I totally agree that RDFRA are more interested in a specialist Reserve than anything else. That's the one which will allow members to serve overseas (ops and training) where their civilian quals can be used to fill gaps if any.

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                            • If we want a fit for purpose RDF there is massive changes required in R5
                              With the reserve constituted as is, no there isn't outside the financial side which any change wont touch as its all been punted to the commission. Since 2005 when it came out its not stopped a single thing from happening. Honourable mention to "officer commanding a reserve brigade" but in reality thats never caused an issue. Grat and reward for those who put the effort in should come back but I'd say I can whistle for that.

                              Admin Instruction R5 should be a living dynamic document reviewed and updated on an annual basis ( as should the reserve side of CS4 ) but R5 ..... being sold a pup
                              Last edited by trellheim; 12 March 2021, 11:15.
                              "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                              "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                              • Originally posted by apod View Post
                                From what I have seen and what I know of them RDFRA exist to serve their OWN interersts.
                                Spoken to a good few AR pers on the subject of the RDFRA submission to CODF. They are not impressed with the lack of consultation.
                                Quote "As usual they are only out for themselves".

                                Be interesting to see what happens but I reckon I am quids in.
                                Originally posted by batterysgt View Post
                                I saw a draft of R5 several months ago, put that point on here then. Not much change in that draft. I can compare to the new one when signed off. That draft was before current MOD was in place so it may well have changed for the better.
                                And I totally agree that RDFRA are more interested in a specialist Reserve than anything else. That's the one which will allow members to serve overseas (ops and training) where their civilian quals can be used to fill gaps if any.
                                RDFRA like here have different members with different opinions.

                                Credit where it’s due they made a substantial submission to CODF with a lot of detail .... there happens to be a lot I disagree personally with

                                Does it suit the needs of the State - IMHO no

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