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    If Officer Commanding is the commander of a sub-unit, and Commanding Officer is the commander of a unit, why does it revert to OC for brigade formations? And carrying this on, if we had divisional formations would the commander be CO? What are the distinctions between CO and OC?
    Last edited by concussion; 16 February 2009, 14:27.
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  • #2
    good question.

    And whats the difference between the OC and the O i/c?
    Without supplies no army is brave.

    —Frederick the Great,

    Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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    • #3
      OC - Officer Commanding
      CO - Commanding Officer
      GOC - General Officer Commanding
      OiC - Officer in Charge
      NCO ic - NCO in charge

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      • #4
        Yes but isn't the GOC the O I/C of those below?

        ANd the Commanding officer would be the Officer in charge of a Command
        Without supplies no army is brave.

        —Frederick the Great,

        Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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        • #5
          Not sure why it is just the way it is:

          CO is the senior officer of a major unit (battalion/regiment strength)
          OC is the senior officer of a minor unit (company/squadron/battery strength)
          GOC is the senior officer of a brigade sized unit (and is a Brig Gen), in the pre reorg structure they had a Colonel who was eg OC 2 Bde while it was GOC Eastern Brigade.

          OiC / NCO IC is generally incharge of a element of a minor unit.

          It could have something to do with under command/under operational control etc etc

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          • #6
            very simple in merchent navy the captain is the commanding officer .
            In lay up an officer in charge may be looking after the vessel , but it would not and could not go to sea.

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            • #7
              Oh I see

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BANDIT View Post
                Oh I see
                I see what you did there!!!! lol.

                Nice one kermit, that cleared up more than a few heads it seems.
                I probably am wrong, sorry about that!!!

                Please PM me to correct me.

                But, not if I state an opinion, only if I state something as truth!!!

                I have bad opinions but I stick by them!!!

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                • #9
                  From a CDN perspective:

                  The CO commands a unit (Battalion or Regiment);
                  The OC commands a sub-unit (Company, Squadron, Battery).

                  At Brigade level or higher, they are called Commanders.

                  The OiC / NCOiC titles are used when someone is in charge of an activity, while not "in command" of the Troops involved, IE: running a firing range.
                  "On the plains of hesitation, bleach the bones of countless millions, who on the very dawn of victory, laid down to rest, and in resting died.

                  Never give up!!"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jungle View Post
                    From a CDN perspective:

                    The CO commands a unit (Battalion or Regiment);
                    The OC commands a sub-unit (Company, Squadron, Battery).

                    Same as the Brits

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                    • #11
                      Why do the Irish Army have the rank of Brigadier General.:confused:

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                      • #12
                        Because we have brigades, I assume. Why does everyone else have them?


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rod and serpent View Post
                          Why do the Irish Army have the rank of Brigadier General.:confused:
                          Because otherwise we would only have three generals, which would be bad for senior officer morale and motivation!

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                          • #14
                            Their motivation must be shocking since they lost the bonus.


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                              Because we have brigades, I assume. Why does everyone else have them?
                              Actually, our Brigades are commanded by Colonels; Brigadier-Generals command Areas, which are geographical commands above Brigade.
                              "On the plains of hesitation, bleach the bones of countless millions, who on the very dawn of victory, laid down to rest, and in resting died.

                              Never give up!!"

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