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    Just watched The Last Castle and was wondering if the army here has a jail and what happens to soldiers who get into trouble? If there is one, is it tough?

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    In the good old days it was Spike Island in Cork,

    and then they sent them to the Military Detention Center

    in the Curragh Camp, Kildare.

    Connaught Stranger.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karl22 View Post
      Just watched The Last Castle and was wondering if the army here has a jail and what happens to soldiers who get into trouble? If there is one, is it tough?
      They've recently returned The Vatican in the Curragh to military control.

      Anyone I know who did time in the DF facilities did not express a desire to go back.
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      • #4
        What arm of the military has charge of the prison facility ? Does it cater for members of the air corps and naval service ?
        Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

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        • #5
          Military Police

          and Yes

          and Yes

          and its termed a Military Detention Facility/Centre
          Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
          Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
          The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
          The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
          The best lack all conviction, while the worst
          Are full of passionate intensity.

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          • #6
            And was known as the Digger....
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            • #7
              an extremely unpleasent location
              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
              Are full of passionate intensity.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karl22 View Post
                Just watched The Last Castle and was wondering if the army here has a jail and what happens to soldiers who get into trouble? If there is one, is it tough?
                With your other thread being about the criminal convictions you have to your name and this thread about military detention facilities, I'm starting to worry.

                Going along the same lines I'd imagine that your next thread will be asking if the Army locks its gates and sets the alarm when it goes out.
                It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kermit
                  The Glasshouse in the Curragh was given to the Dept of Justice and housed sex offenders for about 7years. They were all moved to the Midlands a couple of years ago, and the Glasshouse has been returned to the Defence Forces. I understand it is to reopen as a Military Detention Facility.
                  It's already back in business AFAIK.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
                    It's already back in business AFAIK.
                    I understand it became an unfortunate necessity, as the previous method of using the states prisons was no longer a runner, due to both overcrowding in the prisons, and far more soldiers getting custodial punishments in military courts..


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #11
                      It was once routine for offenders to get two weeks in the Digger, which meant two weeks of "dawn patrols" to spend the days sweeping up leaves, whitewashing rocks, painting, derusting,etc, all under the beady eyes of the PAs...........there was also a time when military personnel went to Spike Island and found, to their dismay, that civilian prisoners enjoyed a much higher standard of accomodation and conditions.
                      regards
                      GttC

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                      • #12
                        I did an escort to Spike once and it put the willies up me.

                        a guy from my recruit platoon had gone absent for about 9 months

                        he got 10 days and he said it was the worst time of his life- he left the DF very soon after that.

                        I also was on an escort to the Curragh and the lad we were escorting tried to escape when the handcuffs came off at the hand over

                        the BSM of the PA's tried to charge us for negligence because we just stood there as the PA's chased him

                        I was a very young and good looking Pvt at the time and we had a good CO who threw the charges out
                        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                        Are full of passionate intensity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
                          an extremely unpleasent location
                          So not at all like your bog standard Irish Prison then?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dazzler View Post
                            So not at all like your bog standard Irish Prison then?
                            Irish prisons are actually not that bad, apart from slop out, they're far better then the ones in the U.K.

                            As GTTC pointed out about Spike island, before it was turned over to the prison service was used to house naval service recruits. The prison service insisted on improved living standards before it moved prisoners in.
                            Last edited by paul g; 30 June 2009, 11:53.

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                            • #15
                              Is it run by the PA's or the Irish prison service?
                              Facts are meaningless - you could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!

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