Camelbak

[paul]

Anyone know where you can get a insulated tube or similar tube that comes with the issue camelbak? The one on my source pack is on its way out.

[smegers]

Here you go.
http://www.cadetdirect.com/order1.php?pg=1578

[paul]

Chears that's perfect.

[piper_69]

Did you ask Source?

[paul]

Did you ask Source?

Camelbak tubes are better as they are insulated and longer, but source make the better pouch though.

[SwiftandSure]

I have a Camelbak related question; apologies if it's been asked before.
Given that most people are carrying a camelbak these days as part of their CEFO; would you still keep a water bottle in your webbing if you're carrying 3.0L on your back? Or use the space for something else (i.e. Ammo)?
The reason I ask is because my camelback is in my daysack, which I consider to be a part of my CEFO, but despite carrying 3.0L on my back I still feel like I must carry water in my webbing as that was drummed into me in basic training.

Has this practise moved on now? Is the Camelbak for water and webbing for Ammo and E-Rats? Or does the webbing still have to contain water to facilitate the soldier to survive and fight for 24hrs?

[Goldie fish]

web-bing?

Is that like a Chest rig or battle vest?

[paul]

web-bing?

Is that like a Chest rig or battle vest?

Think he means that old green stuff the pdf used to wear around their waist, I think it was cefo.

I have a Camelbak related question; apologies if it's been asked before.
Given that most people are carrying a camelbak these days as part of their CEFO; would you still keep a water bottle in your webbing if you're carrying 3.0L on your back? Or use the space for something else (i.e. Ammo)?
The reason I ask is because my camelback is in my daysack, which I consider to be a part of my CEFO, but despite carrying 3.0L on my back I still feel like I must carry water in my webbing as that was drummed into me in basic training.

Has this practise moved on now? Is the Camelbak for water and webbing for Ammo and E-Rats? Or does the webbing still have to contain water to facilitate the soldier to survive and fight for 24hrs?

Personally I keep mine in my cefo only cause I have enough in my bergan/ day sack to go rooting threw it looking for the water bottle. You wouldn't generally bring it if you had 3L's on your back, there wouldn't really be any point of having it in cefo cause its more aquard to get and use than just drinking from a tube, your really just carrying more weight, if your trying to cut down on that don't bring it, otherwise its to your own digression.

[ZULU]

Always carry a canteen myself. There is only two things that will survive on a training ex. Your spoon and your canteen. All else will break, rip, punture,melt etc etc etc

[Docman]

I have a Camelbak related question; apologies if it's been asked before.
Given that most people are carrying a camelbak these days as part of their CEFO; would you still keep a water bottle in your webbing if you're carrying 3.0L on your back? Or use the space for something else (i.e. Ammo)?
The reason I ask is because my camelback is in my daysack, which I consider to be a part of my CEFO, but despite carrying 3.0L on my back I still feel like I must carry water in my webbing as that was drummed into me in basic training.

Depends on who you talk to. According to AAE 04-07, para 16 (b), CEFO includes Patrol Pack. Then again, given the average knowledge of Army documents in the RDF, I doubt anyone will know what you are talking about if you refer to that document.
I carry a Daysack as part of my CEFO. I have a 3l Camelbak which I have in the daysack and another l waterbottle in my belt order - The 1l in my belt order is my emergency water which I will never use unless I have to. When instructing, I still hammer students for not having a proper filled waterbottle in their waterbottle pouch on their belt order. They must also have water in their Daysack - it is easier for that water to be in a hydration system.

OFFICIALLY, the IPLCS Battlevest has a place for the Camelbak so you still carry water on the vest - The PLCE still has a Water bottle pouch for the waterbottle.

But, depending on who you ask, there are several different "Official" versions of what to do. Everyone, from RDFTA to BTC to units say theirs is the proper way. STAY with your unit SOPs. If you are doing a course, do it the way the BTC/RDFTA tell you to do it (even when it makes no sense whatsoever). And if noone cares, do it the way that you find works best for you.
Don't ask for the "OFFICIAL" way if doing something because this is the Irish Army - there is no official way.

[SwiftandSure]

web-bing?

Is that like a Chest rig or battle vest?

Is the word "webbing" not the done thing over here then? I just use it as a generic term for all forms of CEFO, be it assault vest, chest rig, belt kit etc

I'm using a chest rig myself.

Depends on who you talk to. According to AAE 04-07, para 16 (b), CEFO includes Patrol Pack. Then again, given the average knowledge of Army documents in the RDF, I doubt anyone will know what you are talking about if you refer to that document.
I carry a Daysack as part of my CEFO. I have a 3l Camelbak which I have in the daysack and another l waterbottle in my belt order - The 1l in my belt order is my emergency water which I will never use unless I have to. When instructing, I still hammer students for not having a proper filled waterbottle in their waterbottle pouch on their belt order. They must also have water in their Daysack - it is easier for that water to be in a hydration system.

OFFICIALLY, the IPLCS Battlevest has a place for the Camelbak so you still carry water on the vest - The PLCE still has a Water bottle pouch for the waterbottle.

But, depending on who you ask, there are several different "Official" versions of what to do. Everyone, from RDFTA to BTC to units say theirs is the proper way. STAY with your unit SOPs. If you are doing a course, do it the way the BTC/RDFTA tell you to do it (even when it makes no sense whatsoever). And if noone cares, do it the way that you find works best for you.
Don't ask for the "OFFICIAL" way if doing something because this is the Irish Army - there is no official way.

Good post Docman!
I think the way that'll work best for me is to keep the bladder in the daysack reservoir and just bomb up the rig with ammo and essentials. If space is available, I'll pack in water into the rig, but ammo will take priority for that space as I've already got water on my back.

[smegers]

If you're going to be wearing the daysack most of the time anyway why not just use the slot in the vest to store the water bladder?

[SwiftandSure]

If you're going to be wearing the daysack most of the time anyway why not just use the slot in the vest to store the water bladder?

The chest rig I've got doesn't accommodate a Camelbak bladder. Although I can wear my Camelbak separately under my daysack, which I did on camp, but for sake of comfort, I'd prefer to consolidate it into the daysack which is designed to accommodate the Camelbak.

[smegers]

Sorry I presumed that you were in the PDF.

[knocker]

Goldie
RE Webbing - Whats the term given to the belt order / string of pouches around your waist in the army at home ?