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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
    By the way, there is no "CIT allowance" the only thing while on CIT you can claim is sub and it works out at about 20 quid, maybe a bit more.
    Your lucky you are still getting a sub.
    We get sandwichs made the day before by the cooks so they dont have to pay us a sub.
    It wont be long untill all units will be doing the same and sub money goes.

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    • #17
      Soldiers' body to disobey order
      Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:25
      The General Secretary of PDFORRA has said it cannot comply with the insistence of the Department of Defence that it should not campaign on pay issues.

      Gerry Rooney was speaking at the group's annual conference in Tullow, Co Carlow.

      However, the Minister for Defence, Willie O'Dea, said that PDFORRA must operate within agreed procedures, which forbid the association with trade unions or other bodies.

      AdvertisementPDFORRA has been ordered by the department to break their links with the 24/7 Frontline Service Alliance of public servants, which has been set up to fight Government cutbacks.

      Separately, the Permanent Defence Force Other Ranks Representative Association has also proposed that the murder of a member of the Defence Forces should carry a minimum jail term of 40 years.

      PDFORRA said all troops should get the same protection under the law as gardaí and prison officers.

      The Criminal Justice Act of 1990 provides for mandatory 40-year sentences for the murder of a garda, a prison officer or a member of the Defence Forces operating in Portlaoise Prison or carrying out prisoner escort duties.

      But PDFORRA wants the law to cover all soldiers who are assisting gardaí in their work.

      Mr Rooney said the threat from political splinter groups and well-armed criminals is very real and as members of the Defence Forces can be targets they must have the same legal protection
      Oops!


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #18
        So if pdforra are being told to pull out of alliance24/7 how come the garda commissioner isnt telling the GRA to pull out aswell.

        One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.

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        • #19
          I get mounted at early in the morning for a CIT and don't get back to barracks until late evening, that's a lot longer than a normal days work.

          By the way, there is no "CIT allowance" the only thing while on CIT you can claim is sub and it works out at about 20 quid, maybe a bit more.

          Appreciate the problem and as I said sub is valid as would a time in lieu programme as opposed to paying extra taxes.

          But again its part of the job, I know it didn't specify being shafted in the job spec , but whose job does?
          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikeym View Post
            So if pdforra are being told to pull out of alliance24/7 how come the garda commissioner isnt telling the GRA to pull out aswell.

            One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.
            Cause when the PS does go on strike who do you think the Government will task with filling the gaps?

            The one part of the PS that can't play with the Unions... The DF.

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            • #21
              What is "Aid to the Civil Authority allowance" (giving that there is a separate "Maintainance of Essentical Services allowance"?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DeV View Post
                What is "Aid to the Civil Authority allowance" (giving that there is a separate "Maintainance of Essentical Services allowance"?
                Haven't a clue to be honest, never even heard of it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mikeym View Post
                  One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.
                  You are surprised??
                  Without supplies no army is brave.

                  —Frederick the Great,

                  Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Border Bunny View Post
                    Your lucky you are still getting a sub.
                    We get sandwichs made the day before by the cooks so they dont have to pay us a sub.
                    It wont be long untill all units will be doing the same and sub money goes.
                    In fairness, many employees in civvy street bring a packed lunch to work with them
                    By the same token, companies do give a lunch allowance to employees whose job
                    keeps them on the road, where a canteen is normally provided at home base, just
                    like the DF - but I have no idea how the two allowances compare together

                    Where I work (my company is contracted on location to the customer in question),
                    the customer axed the canteen price subsidy for contractor employees while at the
                    same time, leaving them in place for their own employees, i.e; a two tiered
                    pricing system

                    Caused murder at the time, but the net result has been that the crowd that run the
                    canteen have lost a fortune, as a lot of contractors now bring their own lunches,
                    compared to previous
                    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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