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    Truck Driver
    Captain

  • Truck Driver
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    Originally posted by Border Bunny View Post
    Your lucky you are still getting a sub.
    We get sandwichs made the day before by the cooks so they dont have to pay us a sub.
    It wont be long untill all units will be doing the same and sub money goes.
    In fairness, many employees in civvy street bring a packed lunch to work with them
    By the same token, companies do give a lunch allowance to employees whose job
    keeps them on the road, where a canteen is normally provided at home base, just
    like the DF - but I have no idea how the two allowances compare together

    Where I work (my company is contracted on location to the customer in question),
    the customer axed the canteen price subsidy for contractor employees while at the
    same time, leaving them in place for their own employees, i.e; a two tiered
    pricing system

    Caused murder at the time, but the net result has been that the crowd that run the
    canteen have lost a fortune, as a lot of contractors now bring their own lunches,
    compared to previous

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  • luchi
    Cut backs

  • luchi
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    Originally posted by mikeym View Post
    One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.
    You are surprised??

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  • Hello Alaska
    Closed Account

  • Hello Alaska
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    Originally posted by DeV View Post
    What is "Aid to the Civil Authority allowance" (giving that there is a separate "Maintainance of Essentical Services allowance"?
    Haven't a clue to be honest, never even heard of it.

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  • DeV
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    What is "Aid to the Civil Authority allowance" (giving that there is a separate "Maintainance of Essentical Services allowance"?

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  • Hello Alaska
    Closed Account

  • Hello Alaska
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    Originally posted by mikeym View Post
    So if pdforra are being told to pull out of alliance24/7 how come the garda commissioner isnt telling the GRA to pull out aswell.

    One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.
    Cause when the PS does go on strike who do you think the Government will task with filling the gaps?

    The one part of the PS that can't play with the Unions... The DF.

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  • hptmurphy
    Commander in Chief

  • hptmurphy
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    I get mounted at early in the morning for a CIT and don't get back to barracks until late evening, that's a lot longer than a normal days work.

    By the way, there is no "CIT allowance" the only thing while on CIT you can claim is sub and it works out at about 20 quid, maybe a bit more.

    Appreciate the problem and as I said sub is valid as would a time in lieu programme as opposed to paying extra taxes.

    But again its part of the job, I know it didn't specify being shafted in the job spec , but whose job does?

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  • mikeym
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    So if pdforra are being told to pull out of alliance24/7 how come the garda commissioner isnt telling the GRA to pull out aswell.

    One rule for the defence forces and another for the gardai even though gardai are not allowed join a union.

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Soldiers' body to disobey order
    Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:25
    The General Secretary of PDFORRA has said it cannot comply with the insistence of the Department of Defence that it should not campaign on pay issues.

    Gerry Rooney was speaking at the group's annual conference in Tullow, Co Carlow.

    However, the Minister for Defence, Willie O'Dea, said that PDFORRA must operate within agreed procedures, which forbid the association with trade unions or other bodies.

    AdvertisementPDFORRA has been ordered by the department to break their links with the 24/7 Frontline Service Alliance of public servants, which has been set up to fight Government cutbacks.

    Separately, the Permanent Defence Force Other Ranks Representative Association has also proposed that the murder of a member of the Defence Forces should carry a minimum jail term of 40 years.

    PDFORRA said all troops should get the same protection under the law as gardaí and prison officers.

    The Criminal Justice Act of 1990 provides for mandatory 40-year sentences for the murder of a garda, a prison officer or a member of the Defence Forces operating in Portlaoise Prison or carrying out prisoner escort duties.

    But PDFORRA wants the law to cover all soldiers who are assisting gardaí in their work.

    Mr Rooney said the threat from political splinter groups and well-armed criminals is very real and as members of the Defence Forces can be targets they must have the same legal protection
    Oops!

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  • Border Bunny
    Moderated

  • Border Bunny
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    Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
    By the way, there is no "CIT allowance" the only thing while on CIT you can claim is sub and it works out at about 20 quid, maybe a bit more.
    Your lucky you are still getting a sub.
    We get sandwichs made the day before by the cooks so they dont have to pay us a sub.
    It wont be long untill all units will be doing the same and sub money goes.

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  • bored snipped:(
    Marking time

  • bored snipped:(
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    I agree, CIT can be a lot longer than a normal working day, and is one of the longest toughest taskings out there, and such a big target for criminal gangs nowadays, its only a matter of time until we are eventually hit up. These allowances are paid because the jobs that the DF undertake, along with ambulance crews, nurses, fire service, gardaí etc are jobs that most people can't do and most people won't do.
    A small price to pay don't you think?

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  • Hello Alaska
    Closed Account

  • Hello Alaska
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    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Can be requested under the FOI as it is in the public domain, I did it for the entire HSE paysystem and traumatised my self.

    Yes but its a spacefiller..a days work..why should you be given an allowance to do adays work. Ok you can claim sub if away from base with out meals but a CIT allowance no way!
    I get mounted at early in the morning for a CIT and don't get back to barracks until late evening, that's a lot longer than a normal days work.

    By the way, there is no "CIT allowance" the only thing while on CIT you can claim is sub and it works out at about 20 quid, maybe a bit more.

    MOD: Don't give even approximate timings for CIT duties
    Last edited by DeV; 7 October 2009, 17:40.

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  • northie
    Sergeant Major

  • northie
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    For the DF the rates are in the public domain and can be seen here http://www.defence.ie/WebSite.nsf/eb9a86f46ada6f4280256c61003e1c58/eced65584861ba7680256c7e00421c7e/$FILE/ATTGAC4O/A.pdf

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  • DeV
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    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Can be requested under the FOI as it is in the public domain, I did it for the entire HSE paysystem and traumatised my self.

    Yes but its a spacefiller..a days work..why should you be given an allowance to do adays work. Ok you can claim sub if away from base with out meals but a CIT allowance no way!

    CITs can be a very long days work as I'm sure you know.

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  • hptmurphy
    Commander in Chief

  • hptmurphy
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    Obviously i'm not gonna print figures, its a need to know basis

    Can be requested under the FOI as it is in the public domain, I did it for the entire HSE paysystem and traumatised my self.

    Yes but its a spacefiller..a days work..why should you be given an allowance to do adays work. Ok you can claim sub if away from base with out meals but a CIT allowance no way!

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  • bored snipped:(
    Marking time

  • bored snipped:(
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    These are the criteria for different payments of Security Duty Allowance.
    Obviously i'm not gonna print figures, its a need to know basis
    Duties which commence and finish within normal working hours do not qualify for extra payment with the exception of cit/explosive subs, however the following do:
    in ascending order
    (i) Mon - Sat less than 24 hours
    (ii)Mon - Sat (24 hours)
    (iii)Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays (less than 24 hours)
    (iv)Saturday 24 hour duty (no working day as a rest day)
    (v)Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays (24 hours)

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