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    One of my colleagues insists that whilst in uniform, members of the df can go on the luas and other public transport for free. As good and as handy as this would be, i am fairly certain that its a load of bull. Could someone more senior please confirm or dismiss this one so we can put it to bed.

  • #2
    It's bull. If you have a warrant for travel from the DF which you can get, you can travel. But it's not for "free"
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    • #3
      Even if you had a travel warrant, how would you use it for the LUAS?
      The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
      (George Bernard Shaw, Playwright, 1856 - 1950)

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      • #4
        Why dont you simply use the Army ID card

        hold it against the ticket machine

        verbally say your Army number and

        simply away you go.
        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.

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        • #5
          I am sure you would get free transport if youwere armed...........
          Without supplies no army is brave.

          —Frederick the Great,

          Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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          • #6
            Just hop on the LUAS in your DPM's don't pay anything.

            If one of the inspectors asks you for a ticket just start opening and going through all your pockets.

            If you can pull out notebooks, maps, torches and the like it'll eat up a good bit of time and the inspector will just take your word for it that you have paid.
            It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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            • #7
              Two Travel warrants per year to and from home adress is the entitlement to the DF with all others on repayment except those in lieu of postings , attachments or having to use public transport while on DF business.
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bam Bam View Post
                Just hop on the LUAS in your DPM's don't pay anything.

                If one of the inspectors asks you for a ticket just start opening and going through all your pockets.

                If you can pull out notebooks, maps, torches and the like it'll eat up a good bit of time and the inspector will just take your word for it that you have paid.
                Of course he could also ask you, along with his colleague, to get off at the next station, wait till you can't produce your ticket, ask for your name and address and ask you to wait until the guards attend. If you brush past him, then you've committed assault, and its all on CCTV.
                Last edited by paul g; 12 November 2009, 17:14.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by paul g View Post
                  Of course he could also ask you, along with his colleague, to get off at the next station, wait till you can't produce your ticket, ask for your name and address and ask you to wait until the guards attend. If you brush past him, then you've committed assault, and its all on CCTV.
                  But he won't.
                  It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bam Bam View Post
                    But he won't.
                    until you try it, and then he will.

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                    • #11
                      He won't.
                      It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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                      • #12
                        Actually any time I've seen them checking tickets its been at a stop. Checking those getting on and off. Passengers getting on were checked before the tram arrived and those getting off were stopped from leaving the platform.
                        I asked a Garda about the legality of preventing you leaving the platform. He says technically they can't but IF you do leave they can ask you for the ticket the next time they see you and fine you then.

                        If you try that stunt on a bus, Dublin Bus has the option to stop between stops and refusing to open the doors until A) you pay the €10 fine or B) the Garda arrive.
                        Another option is to divert the bus to a garda station.
                        And before you say it, yes it does happen.
                        Without supplies no army is brave.

                        —Frederick the Great,

                        Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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                        • #13
                          Waffler

                          The only travel freebie in uniform that ever existed was the use of private transport for people going over the toll bridge on the M50 in Dublin (which still stands at all toll bridges) for persons in uniform.

                          Unless you have a travel warrant you can't avail of free transport on the LUAS, DUBLIN BUS, IANROID EIREANN or any other service just because you are in uniform.
                          Absolute nonsense to think otherwise.

                          Anyone doing this is pulling a fast one and making a show of the uniform. Along with their unit. And even more so if they are caught for it.
                          Whoever has told you this is either full of the brown sticky stuff, or they are trying to land you in hot water for the "fun" of it.

                          As they say, pay the fare or pay the fine.

                          I am sure that there are plenty of people here who will tell you the same thing.

                          People that are caught fare dodging tend to draw attention to themselves from everyone on board. So as to the idea of rooting through your pockets in front of the inspector, while in uniform (which already makes you stand out) you want to draw the wrong attention on yourself by breaking the law.
                          What a way to compose and carry yourself in uniform.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jonesy View Post
                            The only travel freebie in uniform that ever existed was the use of private transport for people going over the toll bridge on the M50 in Dublin (which still stands at all toll bridges) for persons in uniform.

                            Unless you have a travel warrant you can't avail of free transport on the LUAS, DUBLIN BUS, IANROID EIREANN or any other service just because you are in uniform.
                            Absolute nonsense to think otherwise.
                            Incorrect..... someone once arranged for RDF members to get free travel in uniform on Dublin Bus (before my time)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              Incorrect..... someone once arranged for RDF members to get free travel in uniform on Dublin Bus (before my time)
                              Is that one of these urban legends?
                              The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
                              (George Bernard Shaw, Playwright, 1856 - 1950)

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