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The ony difference between DF vehicles and Civvy ones is that they are green.. we got the same rubber tyres everyone else is using. we do not have specialist equipment contrary to pooular belief bar good drivers and a few sets of snow chains..
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Yep but they're used to it in places like Switzerland and Austria, its an annual occurance in fact they worry if it doesn't snow enough given that its important for their tourist industry,Originally posted by Craghopper View Post
we're not, it happens very rarely, 1947, 1963, 1981 and 2009 and we're not prepared for it.Last edited by paul g; 8 January 2010, 18:04.Comment
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Can snow chains be used on ice?Comment
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No"Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied."
Otto Von BismarkComment
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That you won't be allowed to put on because your not trained how to fit them, similar thing happened with certain emergency services in Dublin not all that long ago.Originally posted by mowaghead View PostDon't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!Comment
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The ESB have hundreds of 4x4s, as they are required to gain access to hard-to-get spots on a daily basis, regardless of weather, so follow their lead.The DF have plenty of off-road vehicles and the expertise to use them properly, including the Mowags and the BVs. Coillte and other Govt agencies have plenty of off-roaders. Apart from that, there are thousands of other off-roaders, such as tractors, private 4x4s and tracked vehicles in the country, so the assets are there.All they need is some kind of intelligent plan to use them properly.
Helicopters are all very well but they are much more expensive to operate and more weather-critical than vehicles to operate and carry proportionally small payloads.Rather like aircraft in famine relief in Africa.Good for TV and short-term relief but not much cop for long-term help.
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When has there been nuclear warfare? It hasn't happened but we still train for it! The chance of heavy snow fall is far more likely so we should be planning and training for it on a regular basis.Originally posted by paul g View Post
better to have and not need than to need and not have which is the case.Comment
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Same point for the RDF - but thats for another thread.Originally posted by Craghopper View Post"Fellow-soldiers of the Irish Republican Army, I have just received a communication from Commandant Pearse calling on us to surrender and you will agree with me that this is the hardest task we have been called upon to perform during this eventful week, but we came into this fight for Irish Independence in obedience to the commands of our higher officers and now in obedience to their wishes we must surrender. I know you would, like myself, prefer to be with our comrades who have already fallen in the fight - we, too, should rather die in this glorious struggle than submit to the enemy." Volunteer Captain Patrick Holahan to 58 of his men at North Brunswick Street, the last group of the Four Courts Garrison to surrender, Sunday 30 April 1916.Comment
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alot of people are overlooking the unsung hero here - tyres!
anytime i saw Irish DF Nissan Patrols in Dublin they were just fitted with bog standard road tyres instead of any off-road / chunky grip tyres which are much better in the snow.
do they still have normal road tyres fitted or have they been replaced with something else which allows them to be better utilised in weather such as this?
just wondering.Comment
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The RDF will not be mobilized because they'll have to pay them where the PDF are getting paid any way so if any one who will be Used it will be the PDF.Originally posted by Vickers View PostComment
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Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
They do have off road tyres but don't use them day to day due to cost and the nissans are used mainely for CIT's and are not required to go off road.Comment
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After the "issues" with getting RDF troops in the Southern Brigade in to assist with the recent flooding, I can't see the RDF being used any time soon.Originally posted by Craghopper View PostComment
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As I mentioned, they won't pay RDF when they can deploy PDF to do the same job.Originally posted by Barry View PostComment
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My point was more general - not specifically to do with the weather - hence my statement that it was for another thread.Originally posted by Craghopper View Post
AFAIK the RDF do not have to be paid."Fellow-soldiers of the Irish Republican Army, I have just received a communication from Commandant Pearse calling on us to surrender and you will agree with me that this is the hardest task we have been called upon to perform during this eventful week, but we came into this fight for Irish Independence in obedience to the commands of our higher officers and now in obedience to their wishes we must surrender. I know you would, like myself, prefer to be with our comrades who have already fallen in the fight - we, too, should rather die in this glorious struggle than submit to the enemy." Volunteer Captain Patrick Holahan to 58 of his men at North Brunswick Street, the last group of the Four Courts Garrison to surrender, Sunday 30 April 1916.Comment
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