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    People talk about fat officers being the main problem of the RDF, the one thing that will certainly kill it is this shit.

    Fraud squad probes reserve troop accounts
    Ken Foxe, Public Affairs Correspondent

    AN AUDIT of accounts used by units of the reserve defence forces has led to three separate fraud probes by the Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation.

    Irregularities in the accounts were discovered during a major review by the internal audit unit of the Department of Defence.

    In every case, it appeared as if 'false accounting' was taking place, most often involving fake invoices that were being used to justify bogus payments to suppliers.

    The money was being taken from unit fund accounts that were used by reserve defence force groups to pay for day-to-day expenses.

    Two investigations into a battalion in Sligo and another reserve group in Galway are currently underway, the department said.

    Another case has already been dealt with. It involved a reserve unit in Cork, where more than €3,800 worth of suspicious invoices were discovered.

    The Department of Defence said a file had been sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) but that he had decided there would be no prosecution in the case.

    The unit accounts were subject to audit as part of a major exercise by the department's internal auditors in the period between December 2006 and March 2009.

    The inquiries began only after one of the reserve units involved submitted a fraudulent invoice for payment in late November 2006.

    A statement said: "In each of the three cases referred to, the audit finding was that a system of false accounting was being operated in the accounts in question.

    "[This arose] principally from certain invoices, which were not bona fide invoices from the suppliers in question, being used to substantiate payments from the Unit Fund Account."

    The Department of Defence said a file had been submitted to the DPP in relation to the 58th Res Infantry Battalion of Sligo in September 2009. It said a decision by the DPP was pending and that it could make no further comment.

    A separate case involving the 54th Res Engineering Company in Galway was investigated, with an audit report being passed to gardaí in September of last year.

    The department said: "The Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation... is currently considering the matter. As this case is ongoing, [we] do not wish to comment further on it at present.

    "By way of general comment, the department points out that these irregularities relate to the period pre 2007."

    April 25, 2010
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    I have nothing but a big lol for the guys that were involved.
    Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

  • #2
    Is it too early to blame cadre?


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
      Is it too early to blame cadre?
      Its never to early to blame the CO though
      Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
      Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
      The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
      The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
      The best lack all conviction, while the worst
      Are full of passionate intensity.

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      • #4
        Heard about this in a pub in Sligo a few months ago.

        If it's the same same story you'll have a good laugh when you hear how it was found out.
        I'm not a number, I'm a free man.
        Who is number 1?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Prisoner View Post
          Heard about this in a pub in Sligo a few months ago.

          If it's the same same story you'll have a good laugh when you hear how it was found out.
          Am waiting with bated breath.........
          "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Prisoner View Post
            Heard about this in a pub in Sligo a few months ago.

            If it's the same same story you'll have a good laugh when you hear how it was found out.
            DO share
            Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
            Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
            The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
            The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
            The best lack all conviction, while the worst
            Are full of passionate intensity.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
              Is it too early to blame cadre?
              Cadre won't give a fiddlers in the cases where the unit OC is a Reservist, I would say...

              i.e; ALL RDF units except Inf Bns, Arty Regts
              "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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              • #8
                Every f***ing time p***ks do this shit it gets harder and harder for us to fund anything out of Unit funds. You would not believe how difficult it is now to get anything approved.
                "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                • #9
                  I know the individual involved and as it's with the DPP I'll say nothing further other than tpo say you will have to visit the B*ll**k Fixing Technician to have them fixed from the laughing damage.
                  I'm not a number, I'm a free man.
                  Who is number 1?

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                  • #10
                    Just wondering why would it be with the DPP and nor dealt with by SIB/MPs and by CM if appropriate.
                    I'm not a number, I'm a free man.
                    Who is number 1?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Prisoner View Post
                      Just wondering why would it be with the DPP and nor dealt with by SIB/MPs and by CM if appropriate.
                      Because the military doesn't have the authority to investigate the civilians who provide the fake invoices.
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                      red headed old dear got a smack on her ginger head

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                      • #12
                        Well said Groundhog.
                        It would be outside the remit of SIB because of the civvies involved.

                        And its a poor show when the Gardai are brought in to deal with anything inside any unit (RDF or PDF). And hopefully these guys who pulled this stroke receive the full effect of the law for it.

                        And not just a bull slap on the wrist. This should result in a dishonourable discharge for all concerned. As well as being named and shamed too.

                        And I agree with what someone posted about how hard it is for legitimate expenditures to be made for Reserve units from unit funds. Made even more difficult with carry on like this.

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                        • #13
                          INV instead of SIB
                          Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                          Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                          The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                          The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                          The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                          Are full of passionate intensity.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                            Is it too early to blame cadre?
                            Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
                            Its never to early to blame the CO though
                            Cadre don't / shouldn't have authority to sign cheques, it is the fund holder (ie the Coy Commander), not sure who has authory in Bn HQ/HQ Coy.

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                            • #15
                              Hence
                              Its never to early to blame the CO
                              The CO is the boss full stop.

                              anything that happens on a negative front is his fault

                              and if its not then he is shirking his responsibilities

                              if something happened (not commenting on newspaper reports) the \co either let it happen or

                              was negligent in letting it happen
                              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                              Are full of passionate intensity.

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