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  • Originally posted by BANDIT View Post
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    Good to see that a few peopel share soem of my opinions.
    As a matter of interest how have the times on the falling plates differed from the times of the Steyr and he FN, wAs there a change in the falling plates format.
    Better physical fitness across the board, compared to years ago, is one possible reason
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
      the 27bn will have the rifles for approx 12 weeks
      as for the decision its probably half made already
      im not sure when you will see the new kit in general population
      i,ll keep you posted

      Cool. Thanks very much!
      SWEAT SAVES BLOOD

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      • You also have wear CBA now doing the plates comp.Tougher again!
        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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        • a little note on the ceremonial weapons
          they will be proper working rifles
          the body of the rifle is painted a horrible green
          the bayonet will be chromed the handles will be black
          the magazine will be completely painted black

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          • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
            a little note on the ceremonial weapons
            they will be proper working rifles
            the body of the rifle is painted a horrible green
            the bayonet will be chromed the handles will be black
            the magazine will be completely painted black
            I can't even picture that. Same green as the current rifle?
            I knew a simple soldier boy.....
            Who grinned at life in empty joy,
            Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
            And whistled early with the lark.

            In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
            With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
            He put a bullet through his brain.
            And no one spoke of him again.

            You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
            Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
            Sneak home and pray you'll never know
            The hell where youth and laughter go.

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            • no its lighter just looks weired the body the fore grip all plastic parts around the body are painted

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              • Sounds aesthetically displeasing.

                What'll RGJ say?
                "It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke

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                • Sounds strange!
                  I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                  Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                  Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                  And whistled early with the lark.

                  In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                  With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                  He put a bullet through his brain.
                  And no one spoke of him again.

                  You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                  Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                  Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                  The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                  • What ceremonial rifles??
                    Wait.Dont tell me they are planning to have a pool of them in the DFTC for units to draw for ceremonial occasions??
                    One snag with that master plan,if that what they are thinking,how are we supposed to teach the arms drill at unit level during recruit training or normal day to day activities??Will we have to go all the way to the DFTC every time we need to do AD??
                    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                    • wow there apod
                      arms drill can be done with any steyr for training?
                      i dont no the over all plan but i,d say each brigade will get rifles if not each op unit

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                      • Ceremonial rifles? Lads can't get issued boots to use out on the ground but they waste their time on poxy ceremonial rifles?

                        Jesus wept.

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                        • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
                          wow there apod
                          arms drill can be done with any steyr for training?
                          i dont no the over all plan but i,d say each brigade will get rifles if not each op unit
                          RDF rifles?
                          Retain the original housing groups.

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                          • I said it before here.You wont be able to do the new arms drill with the upgraded rifle(new sights,no folding barrel grip).All it takes is for 100 old barrels and housing to be left in each unit and problem solved.Perhaps enough chromed bayonets to kit out a quarter guard but taking 100 combat bayonets off a unit to chrome them would be excessive and wasteful.
                            jesus is there no joined up thinking in this Army!
                            "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                            • I can't comment on d thinking I didn't here if the ceremonial will be rolled out to all the op units for goh,s
                              I did here two general s argue about do the rifles need to fire or not
                              And that really says it all

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                              • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                                RDF rifles?
                                Retain the original housing groups.
                                We've only just gotten personal weapons back and you want to whore them out for ceremonial?
                                "It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke

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