Leave

[CS Gass]

yes - we get a half-day every Wednesdays as it's normally a 'Sports Afternoon' - everyone is encouraged to go out and play football or something but so long as you are not found dosing on your beds in the afternoon (just lock your door and they won't find you) they don't really mind where you go or what you do. every Friday afternoon is also a half-day - unless you p|ss the OC off and he makes you all come back in the afternoon for payback.

most units also operate a 'Late Start Monday' as standard - meaning you don't parade until 10:30hrs to take into account the extra distances travelled in the UK (as you mentioned Dev) to give you time to set off early Monday morning, giving you the maximum time possible for you to enjoy the weekend.

as for the annula leave - that's 38 days a year for EVERYONE regardless of rank or time served or where you are based. granted you could be based in Germany but a flight home only takes an hour, and even from Cyprus it's only 5 hours so it's hardly a show stopper and in some cases you wil be home quicker than the UK based soldiers.

and when we are deployed, we get a 2 week R&R break at home (for a 6 month tour) and sometimes there is another 4 day local break (like when we were in Iraq - we used to go to Kuwait). on top of that - our Post Operational Tour Leave is calculated by the time you serve on operations - and each soldier will recieve an extra one days leave for every 9 days spent on operations, therefore a 6 month tour will typically add an extra 4 weeks leave (20 working days PLUS free weekends) to a soldiers leave giving him a total of 80 days leave (calculated the Irish DF way) for that year. 11 and a half weeks (almost 3 months) leave in a year is pretty good by anyones standards.

so we do quite well on leave.

All I can say is..... Sweet!

[ArdMhacha]

Late Start Mondays! class

[RoyalGreenJacket]

if you think 'Late Start Mondays' is good - it's not as good as the last unit i was with in Wales where EVERY Friday was off so every weekend was a long weekend.

a 4 day working week - that is the unit policy there.

even sweeter!

[hedgehog]

if you think 'Late Start Mondays' is good - it's not as good as the last unit i was with in Wales where EVERY Friday was off so every weekend was a long weekend.

a 4 day working week - that is the unit policy there.

even sweeter!

so in effect you work from 1030 on a monday to about 1630

all day tuesday

half day wed

all day thur

and off Fri-

Yet you castigate us for resting of duty, saying you didnt know how we got any

work done

[hptmurphy]

What about applying for a weekend pass, then 5 days leave and then another weekend pass?

No guarantees of a weekend pass.Weekend passes are at the discretion of the person signing them.

You may have been granted a weekend pass but if the pass is not circulated through the main office you could still find yourself on duty. Passes are a very localised affair as opposed to officially applied for and signed off leave.

Permission to travel abroad while on leave.. does it still apply?

Again your out of the country and get posted for duty...

The application for leave over the 14 days was based on being on duty 24/7/365

But then again your going to argue with me any way.

Wouldn't knock the four day week thing.

Wedensdays .. Recreational training..or any excuse to get off the island....also happened to be payday... fridays were almost mandatory half days....and depending on your employment knocking off was when the Bosun knocked off. In most cases the depot bosun was on the 1650 launch so 1630 knock off...all for £120 per week.

[RoyalGreenJacket]

so in effect you work from 1030 on a monday to about 1630

all day tuesday

half day wed

all day thur

and off Fri-

Yet you castigate us for resting of duty, saying you didnt know how we got any

work done

lol - nah Hedgie in all fairness at that unit we had 'long days' to make up for it so the coach would collect us every morning and get us into work for 0800hrs and then would collect us and take us all home after 1730hrs - 4 days a week, this ensured the long weekend - EVERY weekend

but don't even go there about your 'resting-off' period as we've covered it before in detail and it's blatantly not providing an effective and alert Guard Force.

[REX]

What about applying for a weekend pass, then 5 days leave and then another weekend pass?

Ie 5 days leave but 9 days no work?

See post #24

[REX]

You may have been granted a weekend pass but if the pass is not circulated through the main office you could still find yourself on duty. Passes are a very localised affair as opposed to officially applied for and signed off leave.

Permission to travel abroad while on leave.. does it still apply?

Again your out of the country and get posted for duty...

That's why proper procedure is that the Ops cell signs off on the granting of both passes or leave, thereby confirming you are not required on duty on the specified days. I know the process in our Bks. is that your immediate superior recommends pass/leave, then Ops sign off on it, then the BS/CS recommends it to the officer.

Travelling abroad on leave still requires permission, but you won't be called back except in exceptional circumstances as the DF would be responsible for the cost of your travel, not your travel insurance. So it's unusual to find yourself listed for duty during your leave, and if you are, the mistake is quickly rectified.

[RoyalGreenJacket]

That's why proper procedure is that the Ops cell signs off on the granting of both passes or leave, thereby confirming you are not required on duty on the specified days. I know the process in our Bks. is that your immediate superior recommends pass/leave, then Ops sign off on it, then the BS/CS recommends it to the officer.

Travelling abroad on leave still requires permission, but you won't be called back except in exceptional circumstances as the DF would be responsible for the cost of your travel, not your travel insurance. So it's unusual to find yourself listed for duty during your leave, and if you are, the mistake is quickly rectified.

what a complex leave system that is - we only have to declare travel (not request permission) overseas if it's to a specific country (as detailed by our G2 people).

our Leave is our Leave - we are untouchable whilst on leave and therefore we can go wherever we like, whenever we like without having to apply for special passes or permission to go anywhere.

i think in this day and age - having to ask permission to leave the island of Ireland whilst on leave is bit archaic and needs reviewing.

[DeV]

The PDF require permission to get a passport RGJ.

Due to the internal security threat large numbers of troops could in the past be required extremely quickly (thats probably were it comes from).

[WES]

The PDF require permission to get a passport

Since when??

[Hello Alaska]

The PDF require permission to get a passport RGJ.

Due to the internal security threat large numbers of troops could in the past be required extremely quickly (thats probably were it comes from).

You what?

I got a new passport a few weeks ago and didn't need to apply for permission.

[CS Gass]

You what?

I got a new passport a few weeks ago and didn't need to apply for permission.

Someone's going to the digger for the rest of their natural life...

[Hello Alaska]

Someone's going to the digger for the rest of their natural life...

They'll never take me alive!

[RoyalGreenJacket]

The PDF require permission to get a passport RGJ.

Due to the internal security threat large numbers of troops could in the past be required extremely quickly (thats probably were it comes from).

what internal security threat do you have that we do not?

i think poor planning from above is where it comes from Dev.