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Why do the reserves need a body to represent them ?Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson -
People come on here and talk about how RDFRA is bad at communications and then when they try to improve it......Originally posted by Snacker View Post
The DF Press Office has a facebook page why not a representative association?
Because the military authorities (PDF & DOD) don't care about those who give up their time freely in the service of the State!Originally posted by knocker View PostComment
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Dev is right,
Why shouldnt RDFRA have a FB presence - its a good way of communicating with members
and its a good way of letting people know that they are still there.
The RDF are just like the PDF in that the only reason they pay money for someone to represent them- is;Why do the reserves need a body to represent them ?
because their officers have consistently failed to represent them.Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Comment
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Does the civil defence have a body to represent them ? Before you think it, no i am not s*%t stirring I appreciate that the reserve should reflect their regular counterparts in as many ways as possible. Shouldnt the body that represents the regulars cover everyone ? IMHO it seems devisive , each service having their own body. Wouldnt the powers be more inclined to listen more if a body that spoke for both regulars and regulars ?Last edited by knocker; 18 November 2010, 22:27.Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel JohnsonComment
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If the PDF bodies only represent certain ranks within the PDF, what hope is there that they would also represent the concerns of those with the DF as a part time occupation..
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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There are CD volunteer represenatatives on the CD Board!Originally posted by knocker View Post
In an ideal world probably!Before you think it, no i am not s*%t stirring I appreciate that the reserve should reflect their regular counterparts in as many ways as possible. Shouldnt the body that represents the regulars cover everyone ? IMHO it seems devisive , each service having their own body. Wouldnt the powers be more inclined to listen more if a body that spoke for both regulars and regulars ?
PDFORRA and RACO won't even talk to RDFRA, do you really want them representing the RDF..... their policies with regard to the RDF include:
- no cuts in cadre
- no cuts in cadre allowances
- no RDF overseasComment
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Personally I welcome the RDFRA FB page, and I'd be keen to see the RDFRA openly engage with it's members more often via that medium among others. Fair play to them.Comment
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It is indicative of the divisions that RACO only represents PDF only, and not RDF officers even though both receive a similar Presidents' Commission. At least PDFORRA was a little more honest, the clue is in the name"Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"Comment
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As in what Snacker?Originally posted by Snacker View Post
I don't see a problem with this. I am in the PDF and we have our representative body to look after our interests, so the RDF have a similar representative body.
I am sure the people in the org pay their dues, so why not have a facebook page. This is the 21st century after all.
Normally I read some of your posts and I see where you are coming from. But on this one I fail to see any just criticisms of the RDF. I see it as "bag bashing" just for the sake of it.
I sit on the fence in regards the RDF - I see the good and the bad in the org - but I wouldn't subscribe to the train of thinking that some people automatically have when they see a reservist.
So they have set up a facebook page for their members. Which is what almost every organisation does in the world today. If you ask me, its a sign that they are moving with the times.
And it all seems to be above board too in the content, OPSEC, etc. from what I see. This is the kind of thing that should be encouraged from the RDF and could probably go a long way to getting a better calibre of reservist to join in the future.Comment
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Should be good to find out about things through the official channels, as opposed to being told one thing by someone and something else by another person.
So I can see it being a good use for communication in the RDF, and something that is greatly needed.
Nice post Jonesy.Comment
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Originally posted by Jonesy View Post
My oh god comment was possibly not elaborated on very well...
The first things I saw were lads posting about opsec and my card is cracked :-(
What I thought was this is going to turn into another load of baggers whinging about not getting their issue socks and "military IDs"!
The people in the org do pay their dues and that is the problem. PDFORRA is well worth the €3.50 a week of whatever it was but the €22.00 most RDF pay for their one week a year is wasted in my view.... Anyway
I agree with you regarding the positives of the RDFRA getting into the 21st century and saving money regarding the setting up of a FB page but I think it will discourage people from joining the RDF as they will see it for the disorganised mess it really is. However that said, it may highlight some issues that matter to those in charge at RDFRA and they might make some positive changes. I won't hold my breath though!WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to ring them at 4am!!Comment
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PDFORRA = € 3.50 x 52 weeks = € 182
RDFRA = € 22Comment
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182 / (499.85 x 52) = 0.7%
22 / 499.85 = 36.41%WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to ring them at 4am!!Comment
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Originally posted by Snacker View Post
I see the point you are making and the percentage difference is higher for the RDF but not as high as your calculations.
182 / (499.85 x 52) = 0.77%
22 / 499.85 = 4.40%"Fellow-soldiers of the Irish Republican Army, I have just received a communication from Commandant Pearse calling on us to surrender and you will agree with me that this is the hardest task we have been called upon to perform during this eventful week, but we came into this fight for Irish Independence in obedience to the commands of our higher officers and now in obedience to their wishes we must surrender. I know you would, like myself, prefer to be with our comrades who have already fallen in the fight - we, too, should rather die in this glorious struggle than submit to the enemy." Volunteer Captain Patrick Holahan to 58 of his men at North Brunswick Street, the last group of the Four Courts Garrison to surrender, Sunday 30 April 1916.Comment
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