Recce Platoon

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[Bravo20]

I beg to differ on the HQ Coy. That has always been in establishment, it may not be fully up to strength but there is an establishment for it. Generally the roles that are filled are:
BSM/RSM
BQMS/RQMS
Adjutant
QM
Sometimes there are clerk Sgts appointed and sometimes the Int and Sigs officer appointment is filled.

Of course there is the Bn HQ element which contains the Cadre.

well, up to now there is no Reserve support coy or HQ coy, it's not in the establishment. It is proposed that it will, but doesn't exist yet. Up to now, each inf bn has 5/6 inf coys, bn hq is pdf cadre + a number of bn appointments are filled with reserves such as BQ/BSM etc. 81 mortar training (part of supp coy) does go on, but the people are still in inf coys.

(this is all a matter of public record)

[bdr]

you need to have enough trained (3* and above) and qualified personnel in order to sufficiently staff the proper Bn structure.
this is why up to now the support coy et recce, A/T, HMG plts etc do not exist on the ground.
rgds
bdr

Connect a few years ago had a series of centre page pull-outs on the new org will lots of detail so its all in the public domain - except for exact numbers etc...

[DeV]

New PDF Inf Bn Organisation (as stated in a copy of Connect):

Bn HQ
HQ Coy (Coy HQ, Bn HQ Pln, A Pln, Q Pln, Tpt Pln, Med Pln)
2 Inf Coys (Coy HQ, 3 Inf Pln, Wpns Pln)
Supp Coy (Coy HQ, A/T Pln, HMG Pln, Mortar Pln, Aslt Pnr Pln, RECCE PLN)

[Come-quickly]

Every PDF Bn has an assigned recce platoon which trains specifically for the task as in all other western armies, its task is to gather intelligence on battalion or higher objectives.
Rifle platoons provide recconaisance for company and platoon actions, this normally relates to short duration recce patrols.
The OP requires completion of a specialist course in the reserve which like pretty much all worthwhile tactical courses have not been run since B20 learned to blow things up with some old wires and a crisp packet.

[Docman]

I have both. That is what I am using but I don't want to be specific.

[Bravo20]

I'll look up TM201 when I get home tonight and get back to you on that. If only I could get my hands on the FCA Officer's Handbook, that had the old Bn structures.

[Docman]

Originally posted by Bravo20
The Recce platoon you are referring to is the CTR (Close Target Reconaissance) team. This is a specialist course in the PDF. The units deployed to East Timor were considered the CTR teams of their unit.

I am not referring to that.... I am referring to the recce platoon in EVERY Bn's org. Check your Bn Org.

[Bravo20]

The Recce platoon you are referring to is the CTR (Close Target Reconaissance) team. This is a specialist course in the PDF. The units deployed to East Timor were considered the CTR teams of their unit.

[Docman]

Originally posted by ex pat 007
Bailer, what you are referring to is known as the leaders recon in the US.Just as you state all tactical leaders should/must have the ability to conduct a recon before most ops-its in the troop leading procedures and the 5 principals of patrolling.I was originally asking if the RDF inf bttn has an integral recce ply and apparently the imalgimated reserve after the re-org will.

In theory yes. In practice no. In practice we do not have a lot of things that we theoretically should have. Once the re-org goes through, people will (I hope) be assigned to the Recce platoon and will do the training required.... or will it be the same old story of practice having nothing to do with theory!!!

[ex pat 007]

Bailer, what you are referring to is known as the leaders recon in the US.Just as you state all tactical leaders should/must have the ability to conduct a recon before most ops-its in the troop leading procedures and the 5 principals of patrolling.I was originally asking if the RDF inf bttn has an integral recce ply and apparently the imalgimated reserve after the re-org will.

[The Thing]

Ok then Bailer, then every soldier has been trained to a recce standard if you count the role of the scout as recce.
What we are talking about is a recce formation unit ie:support unit recce roles to which the RDF have not been trained, no pioneers, no snipers, no recce end of story.
PS if you know of infantry units in the Reserve that have support company's trained to this level, please tell everyone.

[rod and serpent]

There is a Recce course held at ITC Warminster in England. It is an infantry based cadre which involves the use of the warrior armoured vehicle. The recce platoon is part of the fire support company also included in this company is the Mortar platoon, Milan platoon and Pioneer platoon -construction/demolition tasks -.