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  • How good is your unit?

    We have all seen it in the past- A thread asking for help with dates for courses, copies of manuals, specific army regulations. The standard reply (Quite rightly) has been to ask your NCO's for help and that this is not the forum for discussing that kind of info.

    The amount of requests has led me to another question: How many soldiers out there serve in RDF units that are disorganised, and lacking in leadership?

    It is easy for people to say "ask your NCO's for help". What happens when that person serves in a unit where even that won't work. We all know there is a MASSIVE difference in capability between units and even sub-units.

    While this forum is not the place to discuss restricted material, I would like to ask the question: How good is your unit?

    However, before you answer the question, remember- as a private or corporal, you may not see everything that is going on behind the scenes. Do your NCO's have the info and training they require to do their jobs.

    AND I am not referring to "My unit drink all the time and everyone has a great time so it is a great unit". How good is your unit in a military sense.

    Obviously people should remain anonymous so unless you have a specific comment, just vote on the poll.
    My unit do nothing except drink (Tea and alcohol)
    My unit do some marching and shoot occasionally but thats it!
    The NCO's do their best but we have no organisation
    My unit is OK.
    My unit is a good unit but we could be a bit better
    My unit are well led, well organised and highly motivated
    Last edited by Docman; 2 March 2004, 14:31.

  • #2
    well i chose "My unit is a good unit but we could be a bit better"
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    • #3
      My unit is a bit strange, we are small,

      we have a good few officers (enought to cover most of the jobs), the right amount of SNCOs, too many Sgts, very few cpls, and a good few ptes

      This leads to lots of people making decisions that contradict each other, a complete waste of time and energy

      NCOs, especially the cpls are not kept informed about what is happening, therefore the programme sometimes gos out the window

      The time spent on short notice, field days is then of no use at all

      My coy has improved over the last few month, but for that reason the other coys seen not to want to be involved with us


      • #4
        Doing tactics once a year is not enough and thats all the tactics we seem to do. Only recently an NCO was instructing us on section attacks in a class and when we said we (3*'s) hadn't done any he was fairly annoyed, but he recognised that it wasnt our fault.

        Unfortunately sometimes contradictory orders seem to waste time and there arent enough numbers.

        People havent got enough motivation to keep coming down. More on the ground stuff would have a major effect on morale and numbers etc... I would think.


        • #5
          Bulldemboots, are you by any chance from a unit that does a recruit camp at easter and then puts those recruits on a two star camp that summer? (he asks innocently)

          Regards etc


          • #6
            That's true. But you get my point I'm sure.


            • #7
              Brian, you cannot have too many Sgts. There is an establishment, which is a list of what you should have in a unit- X amount of Ptes, Cpls, Sgts etc. Your unit would not be allowed go over establishment.

              Big problem for RDF units is time constraints and I'm afraid officers and NCOs who actually don't know how to organise a training exercise, range detail or whatever. All the ingredients do not magically appear on a Saturday morning you know. Thats not a criticism of the RDF's leadership BTW just an observation. I cannot do their civvy jobs, I have no desire to and I see no reason why they should become Erwin Rommels when they don DPM.

              Reservists shouldn't be training reservists. Reserve units should be linked to PDF units who should be tasked with organising and training the reserve. This would dispense with the dreaded PDF Cadres which seem to be filled with time servers. Part of the process would of course involve RDF personnel in organisation-requisitioning transport, rations, ammo etc. All the fun stuff that keeps NCOs in barracks when the lads are in the pub.:D

              BTW the PDF is no bed of roses either. We too suffer from disinterested NCOs and Officers, lack of equipment and budgetary constraints.
              Last edited by Groundhog; 3 March 2004, 00:29.
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              • #8
                in some cases the attached pdf instructers dont give a sh*t


                • #9
                  just out of interest who put down My unit are well led, well organised and highly motivated? Just wondering if it was privates, sergeants or officers.
                  To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain


                  • #10
                    you can have over establishment figures .... it's called supernumary (or something like that)


                    • #11
                      I put down that my unit do some marching and shoot occaisonally. This was the case for the last few years but there does appear to be more happening this year. So hopefully something comes from this increase in activity.
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                      • #12
                        My Coy is probably up there with the best.

                        It's all about quality not quantity. Certain Coys in the 7th Batt may have the numbers to put the D-Day landings to shame but their privates might as well be a shower of lemmings. It's obvious when annual camp comes around and you compare recruits from the the different Coys.
                        As for accuracy, presumably the missile carries MRVs with terminal phase sensors and guidance.


                        • #13
                          And your Unit, who ever it is can, always do better.
                          As for accuracy, presumably the missile carries MRVs with terminal phase sensors and guidance.


                          • #14
                            I put down ''My unit is a good unit but we could be a bit better''
                            And I agree with Brian. A few good officers not enough Cpl's and a few good Ptes.
                            One of our problems is we keep loosing our good Ptes to the PDF:(
                            Then we have to start all over again with raw recruits.