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  • #16
    http://www.gov.ie/codf/

    Minutes of meetings will be published on their website

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    • #17
      Parliamentary Q Answer
      https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates...21/167/#pq_167

      Deputy Ged Nash asked the Minister for Defence if he will provide details of organisations and individuals that made submissions to the commission on the Defence Forces, including those that specifically called for a review of the Department of Defence to be included in the terms of reference; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

      In accordance with a commitment made in the Programme for Government, the Government gave their approval on 15th December 2020 to establish an independent Commission on the Defence Forces, with a mandate to report within 12 months. The Government also approved the Terms of Reference and the membership of the Commission.

      The establishment of an independent Commission on the Defence Forces underpins the Government's commitment to ensuring that the Defence Forces are fit for purpose, both in terms of meeting immediate requirements and also in terms of seeking to develop a longer term vision beyond 2030. In establishing the Commission, which contains impressive national and international high-level expertise and experience, the Government are seeking to ensure that the outcome of this process will be a Defence Forces that is agile, flexible and adaptive in responding to dynamic changes in the security environment, including new and emerging threats and technologies.


      I can confirm that 18 submissions were received in response to a consultation process that I initiated on the Commission's Terms of Reference, involving a wide stakeholder group comprising the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defence, the Defence Forces representative associations, the Defence Forces veterans associations, the unions and associations representing Department of Defence staff and civilian employees, the Defence spokespersons of the Sinn Féin, Social Democrat and Labour parties, the Institute of International and European Affairs, the Royal Irish Academy and all other Government Departments. These submissions, which included a broad range of views on matters which the Commission will be tasked, were carefully considered in the drafting of the Commission's Terms of Reference.

      The Terms of Reference, and the Commission's overall approach will be guided and informed by both the White Paper on Defence 2015 and the White Paper Update 2019, which set out Ireland's extant Defence Policy, including the current Security Environment Assessment, as set out in the White Paper Update.

      Below is a list of all those organisations that made submissions:
      Organisations
      • Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defence
      • Labour Party
      • Social Democrats Party
      • Permanent Defence Forces Other Ranks Representative Association
      • Representative Association of Commissioned Officers
      • Reserve Defence Force Representative Association
      • Association of Retired Commissioned Officers
      • Organisation of National Ex-Service Personnel
      • Institute of International and European Affairs
      • Royal Irish Academy
      • Joint Industrial Council for State Industrial Employees
      • Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine
      • Department of Public Expenditure and Reform
      • Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications
      • Department of Foreign Affairs
      • Department of Health
      • Department of Justice
      • Department of Transport
      Last edited by trellheim; 23 January 2021, 13:36.
      "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

      "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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      • #18
        Minutes of the first meeting of the Commission on the Defence Forces which was held on Tuesday 22 December 2020 by video conference.

        https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/03...irst-meeting/#
        German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
        German 2: Private? I am a general!
        German 1: That is the bad news.

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        • #19
          Post removed. Again. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION THREAD. Unless you have an factual update on the Commission's work , post it elsewhere. .
          Last edited by trellheim; 2 February 2021, 09:58.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
            Post removed. Again. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION THREAD. Unless you have an factual update on the Commission's work , post it elsewhere. .
            It's a fact that of the 18 acknowledged submissions 10 are from parliamentary and Government departments.

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            • #21
              That's correct and the 18 are listed above already up-thread. Note that these were submissions on the Terms of Reference .
              "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

              "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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              • #22
                opinion posts moved again - we have other threads for Commission discussion.

                Clock is ticking on submissions folks. If anyone feels strongly I recommend they submit to the CoD.
                "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                  opinion posts moved again - we have other threads for Commission discussion.

                  Clock is ticking on submissions folks. If anyone feels strongly I recommend they submit to the CoD.
                  Closing date is 5 March

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                    opinion posts moved again - we have other threads for Commission discussion.

                    Clock is ticking on submissions folks. If anyone feels strongly I recommend they submit to the CoD.
                    I have done so by submission and FB. I quoted directly from Terms of Reference why is that an opinion please.

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                    • #25
                      Because this is not a thread for *discussion* of the Commission, its TOR or otherwise. We have other threads for that and you are more than welcome to do so.

                      Do not post again on this thread unless you have a new fact regarding the commission, holidays from the forum will ensue otherwise. No more warnings.
                      "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                      "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                      • #26
                        Roger. I accept I'm trumped.

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                        • #27
                          Reminder : Closing date for submissions 5 March : 18 days to go.
                          "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                          "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                          • #28


                            Closing date for submissions extended.
                            German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                            German 2: Private? I am a general!
                            German 1: That is the bad news.

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                            • #29


                              Defence Forces podcast, special episode on Commission.
                              German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                              German 2: Private? I am a general!
                              German 1: That is the bad news.

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                              • #30
                                Post moved once again - no opinion, review or commentary in this thread. I am getting sick of it folks . Plenty of other places for that.
                                "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                                "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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