Designated Marksman and Sniper Support Rifle

[DeV]

The requirement is for a 7.62mm rifle.

Presumably for range & penetration reasons

but how does it fair?

[Rhodes]

Would it be a DMR option?

The requirement is for a 7.62mm rifle.

[DeV]

Steyr fitted with an S&B sight.

Would it be a DMR option?

[DeV]

With PSOs, the possibility of hybrid operations and the experience in Ukraine, I’ve changed my opinion on DMRs.

so long as there is a calibre commonality

[na grohmiti]

Not gone but the FN can't seem to hold a zero well enough to be able to do the job well enough. The Steyr or a AI in 7.62 is preferred for the spotter role.

Was always a problem when the back half of the weapon is not connected directly to the barrel, instead attached to a metal plate, and the sight sits on a Picatinny rail attached to this metal cover, which slides into a groove at the rear half of the weapon. If we are talking tolerances here, that is already too many variables. If the Rail was bolted to the Receiver directly, there may be some chance.
Its a manufactured weakness.
Look at the difference in the Steyr. The barrel locks in place, the Receiver, holding the rail onto which your sights are mounted, is attached directly to the barrel, locking into position.
Zeroing the FAL back in the day, at 100m, with the best of shiney Plastic Butt FAL, you were still hoping to manage to get your grouping inside a 4x3 white patch. Once we went to the Steyr, suddenly groupings for zeroing by experienced shooters was within a circle an old IR£1 coin could cover. Less sloppiness.

[smegers]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfmaga...7720299244005/

is the scoped FN FAL now gone?

Not gone but the FN can't seem to hold a zero well enough to be able to do the job well enough. The Steyr or a AI in 7.62 is preferred for the spotter role.

[Rhodes]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfmaga...7720299244005/

is the scoped FN FAL now gone?

No. Not every sniper is trained on the FN SR as it's another course so for the competition the spotter had the option of using the FN or Steyr fitted with an S&B sight.

[DeV]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfmaga...7720299244005/

is the scoped FN FAL now gone?

[Rhodes]

Nope. Still being progressed in the background. Two units in the DFTC nominated as final user acceptance trials units starting soon. Contenders. On good authority. SCAR-PR/TPR. HK 417, LMT L129A1, HK G28.

Sig and Haenel have also submitted offers. The LMT offer won't be the L129 as it uses the inferior direct impingement system and not a gas piston, it's also semi-auto only and not select fire.

[na grohmiti]

All the above sound like excellent options. (Except the LMT)

[Rocinante]

Nope. Still being progressed in the background. Two units in the DFTC nominated as final user acceptance trials units starting soon. Contenders. On good authority. SCAR-PR/TPR. HK 417, LMT L129A1, HK G28.

Thanks Apod.

[apod]

Everything ground to a halt awaiting CoDF...

Nope. Still being progressed in the background. Two units in the DFTC nominated as final user acceptance trials units starting soon. Contenders. On good authority. SCAR-PR/TPR. HK 417, LMT L129A1, HK G28.

[Tribunius]

My contenders would be the following;

From HK the G28
https://www.heckler-koch.com/en/prod...ical-data.html

From FN the Scar Mk20 (aka Scar 20S)
https://fnamerica.com/products/rifles/fn-mk20-ssr/

From LMT the L129A1
https://lmtdefense.com/product/lm308ssr/

From IWI the Tavor 7
https://iwi.net/iwi-tavor-rifle/tavor-7/

And as wild card from Desert Tec the MDRX
https://deserttech.com/mdr.php

All come in either 7.62x51 or 6.5 Creedmoor (except Tavor), and with a 16" or 20" barrel options.

Not the Tavor. It is painful to use a Tavor if you are used to a Steyr. The bolt release is in the same location as the Steyr mag release. It takes some serious effort to change that muscle memory to squeeze the tavor mag release at the front of the mag well and hit the bolt release after seating the mag.

[na grohmiti]

Everything ground to a halt awaiting CoDF...

[Rocinante]

Any movement?