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Why dont they have an FCA version of the ARW. The TA has the SAS 21 and 23 plus the RMR SBS so why dont you have reserve Special forces.
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Rod & Serpent, the RDF don't need a version of the ARW as we are all part time killers from hell......... -
How did I manage to forget that, sorry.Comment
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R & S, are part time SAS members treated the same as their full time equivalents & how do their roles differ from their fulltime equivalents ?Comment
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the notion of having RDF special forces is ridiculous for many reasons. anyway, the regular SAS sometimes needs to augment its strength in wartime...thats basically what the TA SAS is for. when does the ARW need to augment its strength?Comment
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If the ARW wanted more troops they would recruit them from the PDF, not from the RDF. Most people wouldnt last the first 2 days.
Its not just something that you just wake up one morning and decide to do, there is a lot of training required to do the selection course. Many RDF people simply wouldnt have the time to prepare for such a course?
Although I am sure many would like to give it a bash!
If your not in bed by 4 o' clock it's time to go home!
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The TA sends people to Iraq, Kosovo, Bosnia, Afghanistan etc.
The RDF sends people to assist with the Special Olympics.
Rod & Serpent- what does this tell you?Take these men and women for your example.
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If you're not ready to die for it, put the word freedom out of your vocabulary.Comment
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Jag
As a member of the RDF who was involved in both last years Special Olympics and the national special olympics the year before, I resent your remark, May I point out to you that in 1978 as a member of the FCA I and others were sent to the border on active duty with the PDF and by all accounts the RDF performence was second to none in all of these tasks in all these locations.it will be long, it will be hard, and there will be no withdrawl
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I was also a member of the Special Olympics Attachment, and I would say that the amount of positive feedback that was received from the people involved in the games just goes to show how professional the RDF actually is. All of that reflects back to the training. many people views of the RDF were changed from:
big load of usless sandbaggers -> Well organised, highly motivated, professional group of people.If your not in bed by 4 o' clock it's time to go home!Comment
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entirely agree with joker and beenthere.
You have people going on about this special forces BS. However when the rdf handle an operation that requires the expertise of a military force in a tremendusly professial manner, you slag them off. The special olypics was the biggest sporting event (in the world) last year. The RDF handled all of the logistics, transport, comms, security, accomadation and so on. It was the first time that the RDF organised and RAN such a large event. It was the first time that PDF officers came under the direct command of RDF officers. And it was a sucess. Fair enough it might be cool to get your self cammo-ed up and run around the hills like rambo. But the majority of military buisness is the boring stuff that the FCA executed in a professianal manner at the special olympics. All your ARWs and SAS' would not work without logistics, transport, comms, security, accomadation etc. And we did an excelent job at that last year.
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21/23 SAS mission used to be the staybehind after BAOR was trampled by the Sovs but now its LRRP.
If you want to do spec ops then do it right and join the full timers. It's very difficult to do more than one thing very well."Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"Comment
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We might be misunderstanding Rod. I'n not sure how the TA works but the SAS members may have been fulltime and are now serving in reserves as part of there exit.
ARW members leaving the PDF could possibly do the same. Except the numbers would probably too small to have their own unitComment
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The Special Olympics etc is fine but what is the RDF for. Is it to care for disabled people or is it meant to train for war? The latter I think. Therefore we will never ask the nurses, carers etc to fight a battle and the DF should not be misused either.sigpic
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Well alot of time when the DF is used is for ATCP, the things that people were doing during the special olympics are not that diferent. There wernt that many if any people actually looking after the disabled athleths. As said before it was mainly: Comms, Transport, Security etcOriginally posted by Groundhog
The Special Olympics etc is fine but what is the RDF for. Is it to care for disabled people or is it meant to train for war? The latter I think. Therefore we will never ask the nurses, carers etc to fight a battle and the DF should not be misused either.If your not in bed by 4 o' clock it's time to go home!Comment
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i thought we were all SAS
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