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  • Training Parades -v- Field Days & Camp

    Our unit is suffering, all the priority has been put on field days, weekends & camp for training, but this has resulted in a poor standard of training coming from the standard training parade

    The average unit has as many training hours available in the course of normal training parades (2 hrs per week) as we have available on a 1 week camp, if you add them up

    Any thoughts?

  • #2
    What are you doing on your normal weekly training parades?

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    • #3
      For my COY based outside Barracks we have very little to do at weekly parades and people get bored and dont turn up and if they do often arent in uniform so that limits us too, we have no facility to march as we use a community hall so if we want to march have to go to the other side of town to a car park(but if people arent in uniform we cant)but that is often used for rugby fitness trainning.
      So my COY would have field days and camps as priority, but we are trying to change it - but its hard without access to weapons, a square and other trainning equipment.
      Assurance is credable and to be credable you'v got to show you can do it!!

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      • #4
        where i'm based we have our own carpark so we march up and down that as we weave between the cars we are also near a gaa club so we use their fields for training for section attacks and recce patrols
        It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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        • #5
          For my COY based outside Barracks we have very little to do at weekly parades and people get bored and dont turn up and if they do often arent in uniform so that limits us too, we have no facility to march as we use a community hall so if we want to march have to go to the other side of town to a car park(but if people arent in uniform we cant)but that is often used for rugby fitness trainning.
          So my COY would have field days and camps as priority, but we are trying to change it - but its hard without access to weapons, a square and other trainning equipment
          In my mob, if people don't turn up in uniform, they aren't marked in, and as you
          know, that reduces the individual's hours accordingly, especially if a requirement
          is in place to have a min. amount of hours clocked up AND have ARP's completed
          to go on Annual Camp.

          where i'm based we have our own carpark so we march up and down that as we weave between the cars we are also near a gaa club so we use their fields for training for section attacks and recce patrols
          God help ye if anyone gets injured while doing this training in this GAA pitch,
          would love to know what the insurance situation would be then....
          "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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          • #6
            For my COY based outside Barracks we have very little to do at weekly parades and people get bored and dont turn up

            What do you mean you have very little to do? In my unit, we seem not to have enough days in the year to get done everything that needs to be done. At least half of the syllabus can be done without weapons.

            Examples (Off the top of my head)

            Combat First aid
            Signals Training
            NBC
            Tactics Theory & Admin in the Field
            Foot Drill
            Org of the Section/Platoon etc

            Etc. etc.

            If you don't have the equipment, find it. Get off your butt and do something about it. Admittedly if you are not a NCO or officer, it can be difficult.

            if they do often arent in uniform so that limits us too

            If they are not in uniform, send thm home. No ifs, ands or buts. If they are not willing to put in the effort of putting on a uniform, then there is no point being there. That will soon sort out the problem.

            Having trained in a community centre on and off, I admit it can be difficult, but all it needs is a bit of initiative and ingenuity to get things done. Your people should be going to field days to put into practice what they have learned in the class, not learning it from scratch.

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            • #7
              Its a difficult situation - they turn up in uniform/out of uniform either way there's very little to do it gets repetitve - foot drill - left turn right turn about turn, salute thats all the foot drill we can do as we'v no room.
              We do work from photocopys and talks about tactics with a block board and thats as much as we do.

              [MOD:Edited]
              Assurance is credable and to be credable you'v got to show you can do it!!

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              • #8
                Well, if that is all you do, what do you expect? You get out of it as much as you put into it.

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                • #9
                  It has been brought up at the Officers and NCO's conference this year about getting trainning equipment etc but you might as well be talking to the wall. I cant blame he centre leader he does his best but its hard when people dont tur u n niform or at all and we only have a room and no room to do anything.
                  We have a great reputation at camp our recruits are always trained on foot drill and the weapons as much a possible - our PDF CO and 2i/c commented it, our problems starts when we are 2*/3*
                  Iv fallen out on many occassion with the centre leader over it.
                  Last edited by Bulldog Jr.; 25 March 2004, 17:21.
                  Assurance is credable and to be credable you'v got to show you can do it!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bulldog Jr.
                    Plus we have no Officer in our centre the highest is a Sgt .
                    That can actually be a help more than a hindrance. :D

                    Not being an NCO, there is little you can do.

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                    • #11
                      all i get is "you not an NCO" wait til i am - sparks will fly.
                      Dont worry, being a new corporal is like being a recruit all over again.
                      You're even dumber than I tell people

                      You might have been infected but you never were a bore

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                      • #12
                        There is a fair bit I can do. My daddy is the Sgt and Centre leader! Just picture the arguments and fights at the dinner table!
                        No, having no officer is bad - no one to fight your corner at officers conferences.

                        [MOD: Edited.]
                        Assurance is credable and to be credable you'v got to show you can do it!!

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                        • #13
                          Make sure you drop Daddy's name whenever you can, there's nothing like nepotism to get ahead.
                          "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                          • #14
                            I hate being known as "Blanks YOUNG FELLA" I HATE it!! I try not to have people find out but its very hard with the name tags!Anything i get the other 3* see it as favortism, if i thought th i wouldnt take them.
                            Assurance is credable and to be credable you'v got to show you can do it!!

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                            • #15
                              We do the following on normal training parades:

                              Foot drill
                              Fieldcraft
                              Section level tactics (without weapons)
                              Map Reading
                              Very Very Basic First Aid (how to put on a bandage)
                              signals training (without radios)

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