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  • irishrgr
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    Over herre we have similar issues. Before 9/11 routine security clearances were a simple enough process. The DOD essentially "ran" your details through the FBI's system and assuming you had no "issues", you were good to go. "Top Secret" still required an investigation which usually took several months due to personal interviews etc. After 9/11 it was decided to do all clearances properly, so now despite all the computer data bases out there, they now have to do an investigation on everyone which has slowed the process down to almost 6 months for a "Secret" and up to 18 months for a "Top Secret" Normally only officers and NCO's require the clearances and the Top Secret is reserved for those in the Military Intel jobs. Recruits are still run through the FBI system, so it doesn't slow them down too much, but we have the same issues. Interestingly enough, the DOD here has hired a private company to do the investigations as the investigative arm of the DOD is now overwhelmed.

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  • strummer
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    Why not give the Intelligence types access to the Garda database and keep it all in-house. The background checks could be performed by the Regular G-2 folks and forwarded back to the relevant FCA folks. Then there would be nobody to blame for the delays except the DF themselves.

    But wait......maybe they want someone else to blame.....????

    Later.

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  • trellheim
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    Ssssh JAG.

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  • JAG
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    Example of army bureacracy- apparently for a medical the Drs in Bricins have to fill in three seperate forms, each containing almost identical information in different formats.

    When the workload is tripled for no good reason, why express surprise when the system is inefficient.

    I'm sure that the army brings in IT specialists, marketing etc on contract. Why not get RDF to do these jobs at army rates of pay. You could save a bomb, and that is a reason the minister understands.

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  • Docman
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    Originally posted by morpheus
    Is it just me, or is the DOD just a little bit short-sighted, with all the engineers and IT staff currently in RDF service, we could easily come up with a much better solution, and volunteer our skills to do so seeing how its for our own good and those of our fellow reservists, all the dept would need to come up with would be the material costs.
    That would mean the PDF/DoD admitting that the Reserve can do a job that they can't. They would perfer the whole army collapse than admit to something like that.

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  • morpheus
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    well as im a recruit and not yet sworn in and not yet issued with an army number then obviously im not a member but when i do get sworn in and issued a number and am eligible to join, i will join and of course if they want help with anything, im happy to oblige.

    By the way, i meant, "what was the purpose of the IT in the reserves survey" and what was it to be used for.

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  • morpheus
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    Is it just me, or is the DOD just a little bit short-sighted, with all the engineers and IT staff currently in RDF service, we could easily come up with a much better solution, and volunteer our skills to do so seeing how its for our own good and those of our fellow reservists, all the dept would need to come up with would be the material costs. What happened the RDFRA survey on IT in the reserves???

    infact what happened to the RDFRA website? it hasnt been updated since February.

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  • DeV
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    Outside the Dublin area, the length of time it takes to get a security clearance varies depending mainly on two things: (a) the individuals' criminal history, and (b) the recruiting officer's relationship with the local GS collator.

    After a period of security clearances taking up to 3 months in my sub-unit, the recruitment officer made personal representations to the local collator, a security clearance now takes 2 weeks to a month.

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  • JAG
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    PULSE is way behind schedule. I had a case a few weeks ago, driving license restoration. The Garda who gave evidence was able to find a previous arrest, but not the conviction cause it hadn't been entered- after well over a year.

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  • Goldie fish
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    It only takes one person on the GS end at present....when they get the chance...other priorities get in the way though.

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  • Big Al
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    I am assuming that if you are on the pulse system, you have done something to merit it and have been convicted (if not pulse then some other DOJ based system) and have no human input at all from the GS/DOJ end, one system simply enquires from the other system do you have a record of person X, if so fail if not pass or if there is a query refer to operator. This would surely cut down on manpower use at both ends

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  • Goldie fish
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    You are assuming the Garda computer is user friendly(Pulse). The problem is a legal one,to do with data protection etc,and the PULSE interface has actually made the process slower than in the old days of the computer which took up a room in most garda stations.

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  • Big Al
    started a topic Recruiting Administration Technology ( RAT )

    Recruiting Administration Technology ( RAT )

    How hard can it be to automate the security clearance? Surely in this IT age a system could be devised that accesses the GS system and sends an enquiry to it.

    The DF system sets up a database called Potential reserve recruits and then the following details are sent to the GS:

    Name
    Address
    RSI No
    DOB
    Mothers Maiden Name
    Parents Names

    and the cops computer would return a simple pass or fail response.

    On receipt of the pass response from the GS system the file is then moved from the PRR database to the unit database and an Army number is automatically assigned to it, a report is then generated by unit and sent to the respective orderly rooms

    Now go hire some consultants from PriceWaterhouse Coopers to tell you the same and over see it for €150,000
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