72 Hr. Ex.

[greyfox]

I am going to camp next week and they are issuing 58 pattren.
What a joke, didnt even bother to collect it. you couldnt fit a smurf in it
after the wet gear basha spare clothes etc there must be some health and safety directive against it ! As for Gucci ki, get yourself a camping stove,they are a bit heavier then a hexi but worth it , a basha as opposed to the issued poncho.

[Jimmy C]

Yes I've heard of deafness claims Goldie, but it isn't exactly practical to wear double hearing protection when you are lead man in a platoon in attack.

[California Tanker]

Our motto over here in the Guard is 'Buy your way to war'.

We're buying about as much equipment as you guys are, except a lot of it is more expensive. (My rifle sight is setting me back almost $600 for example)

NTM

[Goldie fish]

Originally posted by Jimmy C
72 hour is now finished. Just as a reference for other people going on a similar course, here is a list of the things I didn't think to bring.

DOUBLE hearing protection, I never use both but it was required and I didn't have it.
Tea bags, soup etc. We were told we would get ration packs so I didn't bring any. They lied.

You will regret it when you are in your 40s and suffering from Tinnitis. Ever hear of the army Deafness claims?

[Jimmy C]

72 hour is now finished. Just as a reference for other people going on a similar course, here is a list of the things I didn't think to bring.

DOUBLE hearing protection, I never use both but it was required and I didn't have it.
Tea bags, soup etc. We were told we would get ration packs so I didn't bring any. They lied.

[Queenie]

Originally posted by Bravo20
Is someone trying to take a shortcut Queenie. (Bloody lazy CQs)

Probably, but I rang RDFRA to get the official stance, then I range our CQ to give him an earful and by the time the conversation ends he has me thanking him for the stuff he HAS given us!!! I wish I wasnt so weak..

Anyway probably too late posting stuff to bring now but to finish off......kit mat, full water bottles, ear defenders, toothbrush/paste. I wouldnt bother with a helmet unless you're on the exercise....

[Goldie fish]

Originally posted by DeV
The only things in the above list I have EVER seen issued to RDF personnel (in my nearly 7 years service) is:

Poncho
Sleeping Bag
Spare dry uniform
Hexi

I really must transfer to the south / DFTC where they seem to get everything

You won't get it in the south...see the recruit depot re fleeces...:D

[Docman]

It is a mixture of different things, from op's to roadblocks to company in attack. You have to be ready for anything.

[DeV]

What is generally involved in the PSO exercises?

Is it normal UN type operations (OPs, CHPs, Patrolling etc) or is it combat type operations?

If you are able to tell Jimmy C this he will have a better idea of what to bring.

My advise don't bring anything or any value if you are going to be searched!

[Come-quickly]

I take it by exceptions you mean when equipment is actually issued in accordance with health and safety regulations.

[Docman]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kermit

poncho, now called basha, tent pegs, bungees, goretex bivi bag and sleeping bag are part of the issue sleeping system.

Originally posted by ICUN
They may be part of the sleeping system on paper but all I've ever seen people get issued is a poncho and a sleeping bag.

The old sleeping system consisted of the '58 patter sleeping bag and green Poncho. The new PDF sleeping system consist of the new sleeping bag, basha, etc.

The RDF always gets the old system and the PDF always gets the new A few exceptions).

[Groundhog]

poncho, now called basha,

They are two different things actually. A basha doesn't have a hole in it to put your head through.

[Joshua]

OK, enough whinging. Back to the thread please.
Any more tips for Jimmy C on his wilderness trip would be welcome.

Regards etc

[DeV]

That does not make any difference in my unit. We're luck to get anything (on joing instructions or not), even if our unit is running the course!

[ICUN]

poncho, now called basha, tent pegs, bungees, goretex bivi bag and sleeping bag are part of the issue sleeping system.

They may be part of the sleeping system on paper but all I've ever seen people get issued is a poncho and a sleeping bag. It might be different however if you are on an ex with the PDF.