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  • Reflex Sights.

    did anybody hear any rumours that the army are gonna upgrade the sights on the aug with israeli mepro 21 reflex sights?
    i know thw wing have been using them for a while now.any info?

  • #2
    It's 500 euro a shot, that might be a bit much for the DOD?

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    • #3
      Dont you need to fit them on a different reciever/housing group(Nato Stanag rails)? How much would these cost for all rifles currently in service?
      Is there not a photo of these here somewhere,in use on the Steyr?


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • #5
          Back


          Front


          Left Side


          Top View


          Isayerat.com

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          • #6
            Would the tritium not be a dead give away at night? I have a tritum key ring thats clearly visible in low light.

            Here it is on the Styer (one of the pics thats floating around the ranger threads).

            http://groups.msn.com/chuck6dsmilita...to&PhotoID=384

            You can also see it on the MP5's the rangers were pictured with in the paperes back in july (have a look in the irish time photo section detils in
            this thread).
            Muzzle
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            Last edited by Muzzle; 9 August 2004, 02:18.

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            • #7
              Where is chuck these days?


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #8
                Is it possible to fit these sights to a gpmg or a minimi?
                "take a look to the sky right before you die, its the last time you will"

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                • #9
                  Dont know anout the GPMG but I have seen the minimi with optical sights. There are a few pics of the ARW with minimi and optical sights.

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                  • #10
                    Name one army whose regular troops use reflex sights on the Steyr?
                    The Australians and Kiwis use the C79 Elcan sight which has 3x magnification and an accurised range finding reticle but this is on a scale of two per section although increasing that to four is probable in the near future.
                    Even this still requires a picattiny mount, also anyone who has handled a weapon with a C79 fitted will tell you that it is quite heavy as these things go.
                    The C79 is what the ARW had fitted to their minimis in Liberia
                    "It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke

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                    • #11
                      The 12th Bn shooting team have steyrs fitted with elcans from the time they competed in Bisley. This was because the Brits had the susat on the sa80 and they had a slight advantage.with the sights-not the rifle.I had an sa80a2 in my hands last thursday.Balance is'nt great,dont know what its like to fire.Better shut up now as I am going off on a tangent.[MOD: ]

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                      • #12
                        Wouldn't it be better to fit a sight with magnification like the aimpoint rather then a reflex one?

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                        • #13
                          If anyone mentions "telescopic/optical sight" they will be forever cast into the wilderness of the net.

                          Regards etc
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                          • #14
                            Like the telescopic sight on the steyr?


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • #15
                              Here we go again!

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