Camouflage

[Muzzle]

Im a bit unsure of starting a thread on this topic as it may just descend in to Walter accusations but...

During tactical exercises how far do people take their personal camouflage? Iv seen plenty of walking bushes and quite a few people with 2 brown streaks on their cheeks and thats it.

One guy I know has a jacket with mixture of material strips and burlap/hessian which was surprislingly effective.

Normally I cover face, neck, ears etc. with camo cream and wear black fingerless gloves. After that I have a french camo hat various bits of scrim.

So what do you do/have?

Do many people atempt to camofalge their rifle (not an easy task to do without accidently hindering the mechanism)?

[Chief Bubblewrap]

A ghillie suit is effective, plenty of camo cream and bob's your uncle.

[Goldie fish]

The fieldcraft training is quite clear as to what is the appropriate level of camoflage to be worn during normal operations.
A simple guide though,is if you are being shot at,you are wearing too little....if small trees are falling off you,you are wearing too much.

[Muzzle]

Would you not consider a ghillie suit over kill for an infantry soilder who will have to move quickly during an attack?

[Goldie fish]

Ghillie suits are only useful if you will be in the one position,without other cover or a hide for a long period.
i.e,on an O.P.

[Muzzle]

Originally posted by Goldie fish
Ghillie suits are only useful if you will be in the one position,without other cover or a hide for a long period.
i.e,on an O.P.

Yeah thats what I would have thought.

As for fieldcraft training covering everything I think its safe to say there is always room for improvement

Is burlap readily available in this country?

[Goldie fish]

So you are sayin,lets ignore training and do things like we once saw on a movie?

Unless your improvements are based on actual combat experience.

[Muzzle]

Originally posted by Goldie fish
So you are sayin,lets ignore training and do things like we once saw on a movie?

Unless your improvements are based on actual combat experience.

No,you said that, but if you dont belive me you can reread my post above.

[rod and serpent]

Ghilli suits are usually worn by snipers not ordinary squadies.

[The Joker]

Not much point in one person having a ghilli suit if the rest of the section or whatever dont have them.

[DeV]

Is use a piece of scrim net with material attached to cover the very obvious shape of the rear pouches.

[Muzzle]

I reckon a fully fleged ghilli suit is a bit much if your doing section attacks. Maybe tonned down bits that can be attached to webbing and boots etc.

Saying they are only for snipers I dont agree with. As GOldie said anyone doing an OP or any kind of recon would have a good use for one id say.

I didnt mean for this to be a thed on ghilli suits BTW so feel free to open it up a bit like Dev

:D

[barry sheehan]

As a rough guide you should use 70% local cam and 30% man made.Too much cam restricts your ability to move and reload Quickly.Ghillie suits are normally only used by snipers in the pdf.Recce troops do not use them.Helmet/shoulders/back of cefo and ankles (if you are stalking)is enough.face should be fully cammed along with neck(front and back)ears and backs of hands(even if you are wearing gloves,sleeves Do ride up you know).Looking like a walking bush is not neccesary and is counter productive.Hope that helps.:-patriot:

P.s burlap is the other name for hessian.As in the old sandbags.Get a few of these,shred them a nd run them over with a wire brush.You got cam.

[Muzzle]

Originally posted by barry sheehan

P.s burlap is the other name for hessian.As in the old sandbags.Get a few of these,shred them a nd run them over with a wire brush.You got cam.

Yeah I noticed all the older army sandbas are burlap/hessian/hemp but its hard to get your hands on em. I thought garden centers would do it as sacking or graden underlay stuff but havent seen it.

Im surprised the Recce troops arn't wearing them, would ahve thought it would be an advantage in their role.

[Bravo20]

You have to balance the need to be able to move effectively with the requirement not to be seen. Note Barry's point about 70% being local camo, there is a danger that your man-made gilly suit doesn't match the local surroundings.