Nirvana.....

[hedgehog]

Both on and off topic,

But this is an interesting story,

. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/ma...mid=fb-nytimes

[Shadow]

My other point was to provoke a response which would tell if previous if previous opinions that systems successfully operating in other similar countries (US & UK reserve forces) could not work here had changed. And waiting.............

Actually most medic skills in UK forces not recognised in civvie street unless you do further training as EMT/ODP/Nurse etc. (know this from a 22 year service ex-RN PO medic whom I work with in an intensive care unit)

[T.I.M.]

ah... i though this thread was about the band!

lousy false advertising!

[Joshua]

Sounds similar to the policy of the one portrayed (at first glance) by your old avatar.

[Goldie fish]

I got banned from a message board last week for disagreeing...only 29 posts(30 if you include the one that was deleted by mods)

[Joshua]

Maybe discussion boards would be boring if we all agreed.

[hptmurphy]

Maybe if he was banned he might go away!

[Gasplug]

Maybe if we ignore him he will go away??

[The Joker]

I have been hearing the "first to go, overseas next year" bullshite since 1997. I heard from your unit in, hmm, 1999.

It's getting kind of old.

Pot calling kettle black...

[The Sultan]

jag just for your info since december 1998 rdf medices have being doing ambulance skills course all people in the DF who want to become an EMT MUST DO THIS COURSE first so please dont preach about thing you know nothing about

Ambulance skills are ambulance skills. Fine, they put you on your way to being an EMT. Dont forget your modules in...

Introduction to Ambulance Services organisation structure and services.
Health and safety at work/ moving and lifting patients.
The management of illness and injury.
Special clinical situations.
Communication skills.
Special procedures.
Human structure and function.
And dont forget your in service training...
Emergency Department attachment.
Coronary Care attachment.
Paediatrics attachment.
Theatre attachment.
Obstetrics attachment.
Communications centre attachment.
Emergency ambulance attachment .

Now all that talk about wannabees....

[The Joker]

Joker, don't forget I know exactly what standards you had to reach to become a 3*- they were the same as the ones I had to reach. I also know the standards which had to be achieved by many serving NCOs in the RDF, because I achieved them too.

Low. Depressingly low.

By what standards where they low???

You MAY have been able to see low standards back then, but at least I can say that I have seen the standard of training increase. You can lead a horse to water......

[JAG]

That is something for the Reserve as a whole, however it has been mentioned several times before that medics will be among the first to go overseas when the time comes.

I have been hearing the "first to go, overseas next year" bullshite since 1997. I heard from your unit in, hmm, 1999.

It's getting kind of old.

[The Joker]

I heard. I also heard that there are TA & USNG in this years Occupation of Iraq & Afghanistan. But there are still feck all RDF in Liberia.

So we are back to this again.....always the lowest common denominator.

This has nothing to do with the "death of the med coy".

That is something for the Reserve as a whole, however it has been mentioned several times before that medics will be among the first to go overseas when the time comes.

[JAG]

Oh JAG by the way there were RDF people at this years Special Olympics Regional Games. Just so you can move on from 2003

I heard. I also heard that there are TA & USNG in this years Occupation of Iraq & Afghanistan. But there are still feck all RDF in Liberia.

RDF was ruined long before A7. What the hell does A7 have to do with training standards anyway? You assess people, they pass or they fail. That has NOTHING to do with bullying.

Joker, don't forget I know exactly what standards you had to reach to become a 3*- they were the same as the ones I had to reach. I also know the standards which had to be achieved by many serving NCOs in the RDF, because I achieved them too.

Low. Depressingly low.

[The Joker]

Fair enough, I'm out long enough that things MAY have changed completely. As for the quota of arseholes, that was exactly why I left.

In reference to comparing to US/UK forces:

The Territorial Army & USNG went and are going to Iraq & Afghanistan.

The FCA went to the Special Olympics.

What does this tell you?

Most instructor will tell you that A7 has ruined training in the Defence Forces. Now before anybody starts flying off the band wagon, this is what I have heard from PDF & RDF instructors. Hence there are more arseholes getting past training. Its not our fault, there are arseholes EVERYWHERE its a simple fact of life.

Oh JAG by the way there were RDF people at this years Special Olympics Regional Games. Just so you can move on from 2003