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  • The Joker
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    Muniteoir, It was an instructors course for NCO's thats all I am saying.

    Also, in relation to PDF having enough people to cover all duties that they are given. I know this to be factually wrong.....

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  • Joshua
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    I'm terrified.

    Click my name and read my profile.

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    You asked the initial question and here is your poll.

    Edit Poll View Poll Results: Is the re-org a good idea?
    Yes 3554.69%
    No 34.69%
    In theory yes in practice no. 2640.63%


    Your question has been answered.

    I am closing this thread.

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  • Big Al
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    Originally posted by muinteoir
    im not whining. im giving an opinion. an opinion shared by the majority of pdf personnel..
    but funnily enough not by the majority of PDF or ex pdf on this board

    Originally posted by muinteoir
    i hope to god your in the 7th inf bn, because you won't know what hit you when your on an exercise with us.
    "funking bags, we'll show them what the fightin fifth is like"

    love the mature attitude there...

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    im not whining. im giving an opinion. an opinion shared by the majority of pdf personnel. sure we all know whats going to happen, there is going to be a hell of a lot of complaints put in from both sides. and the re-org will be reviewed. i hope to god your in the 7th inf bn, because you won't know what hit you when your on an exercise with us.

    how in gods name did you become a moderator.

    oh wait, you are in the 21st. well good luck with the 2nd, your going to need it
    Last edited by muinteoir; 17 September 2005, 18:25.

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  • Joshua
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    Yeah you're right.

    It's terrible.







































    ITS HAPPENING
    STOP WHINING


    Adapt & Overcome


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  • Guest's Avatar
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    rdf infantry, artillery, cav and ad units should not be allocated 10% of the majority of courses run by the pdf as they are directed at those going overseas.

    there is no purpose for them to take places on courses that really don't concern them.

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  • average fridge door like
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    Originally posted by muinteoir
    the pdf has enough personnel to cope with all duties given to them. when was the last time you did a cash, explosive or prisoner escort. a barrack guard that doesn't include your annual camp in the glen. worked the gate at a major barracks or did a BST? should places on courses be given to the rdf 1 year wonders?

    oh yeah when will you have time to do all this. you all have jobs or are in school?
    when will you be able to take out 3 weeks to 6 months to complete a course?
    the pdf are soldiers 24/7
    the rdf are soldiers once a week some weekends and an entire week every summer
    if PDF have enough troops to cover duties then why do reservists like me do duties in Bricins???

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  • average fridge door like
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    Originally posted by Joshua
    Apod & Muinteoir,you are both correct.

    Boo Hoo.
    GET ON WITH IT.

    Just to recap.

    Your first line of attack is ( to paraphrase ), we dont want RDF with us overseas, sure what training do they have", followed by " RDF shouldnt be given training before us real soldiers". Can you see the conflict here?
    Make your mind up.
    Stop whining.

    It's irrelevant what you think. It IS happening.
    Get over it and get on with it.
    muinteoir you seem to have a really bad problem with this re-org thing but you can't do anything about it. just give it a go well you have to anyway ya have no choice! joshua is right!!!!
    you said rdf don't need these courses for their careers i beg to differ. the NCO's course, i hope to go on maybe next yr or the yr after because i wanna go onto the pdf, i'm gonna apply for a cadetship after my degree and if i'm an NCO i'll get a higher % mark as i'm sure ya know so as ya can see many reserve personnel's careers depend on these courses and it just so happens that a few places in some courses are allocated to the RDF. It's really beneficial for us try understand that!!!

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  • Joshua
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    So, there is no air threat, let's disband the AD!

    Please dont reply, I'm washing my hair.

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    Originally posted by Joshua
    I now give up. I cannot compete with a psychic.
    at the moment, i say again, at the moment.
    it is common knowledge that ireland has no air threat at the moment. if circumstances were to change then the ad would be needed. and my comments refered to the deployment of rdf personnel overseas

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    Originally posted by Roger McGee
    As the FCA we were there to take over your duties should you have been need else where, as the RDF we'll have exactly the same purpose as you.

    the pdf has enough personnel to cope with all duties given to them. when was the last time you did a cash, explosive or prisoner escort. a barrack guard that doesn't include your annual camp in the glen. worked the gate at a major barracks or did a BST? should places on courses be given to the rdf 1 year wonders?

    oh yeah when will you have time to do all this. you all have jobs or are in school?
    when will you be able to take out 3 weeks to 6 months to complete a course?
    the pdf are soldiers 24/7
    the rdf are soldiers once a week some weekends and an entire week every summer

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  • Joshua
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    Originally posted by muinteoir
    at the moment irelands need for the ad is nil as there is no threat from being attacked from above.
    I now give up. I cannot compete with a psychic.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Eddie Dillon
    Without the RDF component of AD Ireland's air defence capability would amount to a grand total of [MOD: Operational information] there or thereabouts. I think the AD's existance can be justified
    at the moment irelands need for the ad is nil as there is no threat from being attacked from above.
    rdf infantry, artillery,cav and ad units have no need for the training provided by the majority of courses run by the pdf because they are directed at people going overseas.

    joker could you mind telling me what course that was
    Last edited by muinteoir; 17 September 2005, 17:49.

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  • The Joker
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    Originally posted by muinteoir
    what will happen when a member of the rdf can't keep up physically on some course and they end up going flat.

    Actually....the last course I was on there was a 50/50 split between RDF/PDF.

    There was 1 person RTU'ed during the course, that person was of course.....anybody care to take a guess?

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  • ELVIS
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    Originally posted by Eddie Dillon
    Without the RDF component of AD Ireland's air defence capability would amount to a grand total of [MOD: operational information] there or thereabouts. I think the AD's existance can be justified
    thats an impressive amount of equipment...

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