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  • Estimates for Public Services 2006 (Updated with 2007 figures)

    http://www.finance.gov.ie/documents/...imates2006.pdf

    Defence spending up about 3 or 4% depending on how you crunch the numbers. In line with inflation anyway. Anything's better than a cut.

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    Minister for Finance publishes Estimates for Public Services 2006

    The Minister published the book of estimates today. It annouces the budgets that are being allocated to all public bodies for 2006. Below you will find the increases/decreases (compared to that allocated for 2005) which have been allocated to the Defence Forces.

    PDF Pay + 4%
    PDF Allowance + 3%
    RDF Pay etc + 4 %
    Defensive Equipment + 14 %
    Air Corps Equipment & Expenses - 11 %
    Military Transport + 12 %
    Naval Service Equipment & Expenses + 14%

    Barrack Expenses & Engineering + 9 %
    Buildings + 8 % (€21.8m on the capital programme)
    Ordnance, Clothing & Catering + 9 %
    CIS - 11 % (€2.8m on the capital programme)

    Military Training + 3 %
    Travel & Freight Services + 7%
    Medical Expenses + 2 %
    Lands + 42% (€16m on the capital programme)
    Compensation - 57 %

    Equitation + 3 %
    Miscellaneous + 45%
    EU Security & Defence Policy + 2 %
    Grant in Aid (CD Board) + 3 %
    Grant in Aid (Irish Red Cross) + 2 %
    Grant in Aid (Coiste an Asgard) - 33 %

    Total Increase of 4% on the Estimated expenditure for 2005.

    http://www.finance.gov.ie/documents/...imates2006.pdf

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    • #3
      Taking 3% as the figure for inflation, there are some significant increases there.
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      With 50,000 men getting killed a week, who's going to miss a pigeon?

      Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

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      • #4
        Awww! I was hoping for a tank this Christmas.
        To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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        • #5
          http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/b...ead.php?t=7584

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          • #6
            Grant in Aid (CD Board) + 3 %
            Grant in Aid (Irish Red Cross) + 2 %
            Grant in Aid (Coiste an Asgard) - 33 %
            Is that last one the Coast Gaurd? WTF?

            And as for CD, WTF? We need yellow paint of all things!

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            • #7
              I think the last one is the Asgard II sail training vessel
              "Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here...this is the War Room!"

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              • #8
                Asgard II is a sail training vessel owned by the Minister for defence(for purely administrative purposes). Coiste an Asgard is the group responsible for the managing of this fine vessel.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeV
                  The Minister published the book of estimates today. It annouces the budgets that are being allocated to all public bodies for 2006. Below you will find the increases/decreases (compared to that allocated for 2005) which have been allocated to the Defence Forces.

                  PDF Pay + 4%
                  PDF Allowance + 3%
                  RDF Pay etc + 4 %
                  Defensive Equipment + 14 %
                  Air Corps Equipment & Expenses - 11 %
                  Military Transport + 12 %
                  Naval Service Equipment & Expenses + 14%

                  Barrack Expenses & Engineering + 9 %
                  Buildings + 8 % (€21.8m on the capital programme)
                  Ordnance, Clothing & Catering + 9 %
                  CIS - 11 % (€2.8m on the capital programme)

                  Military Training + 3 %
                  Travel & Freight Services + 7%
                  Medical Expenses + 2 %
                  Lands + 42% (€16m on the capital programme)
                  Compensation - 57 %

                  Equitation + 3 %
                  Miscellaneous + 45%
                  EU Security & Defence Policy + 2 %
                  Grant in Aid (CD Board) + 3 %
                  Grant in Aid (Irish Red Cross) + 2 %
                  Grant in Aid (Coiste an Asgard) - 33 %

                  Total Increase of 4% on the Estimated expenditure for 2005.

                  http://www.finance.gov.ie/documents/...imates2006.pdf




                  The above percentages are a wee bit misleading

                  As they say 100% of nothing is still nothing
                  whilst 1% of 10 million is something worth having!!!!!!


                  I have recalculated the percentage increases [2006 fig less 2005. times 100 divided by 2005 fig] and they look thus

                  PDF Pay + 3.473%
                  PDF Allowance + 1.877%
                  RDF Pay etc + 3.569%
                  Defensive Equipment + 14.240 %
                  Air Corps Equipment & Expenses - 11.470 %
                  Military Transport + 12.485 %
                  Naval Service Equipment & Expenses + 13.859%

                  Barrack Expenses & Engineering + 9.299 %
                  Buildings + 8.144 % (€21.8m on the capital programme)
                  Ordnance, Clothing & Catering + 8.918 %
                  CIS - 11.191 % (€2.8m on the capital programme)

                  Military Training + 2.501 %
                  Travel & Freight Services + 7.453%
                  Medical Expenses + 2.5 %
                  Lands + 42% (€16m on the capital programme)
                  Compensation -57.143 %

                  Equitation + 2.521%
                  Miscellaneous + 45.153%
                  EU Security & Defence Policy + 2.5 %
                  Grant in Aid (CD Board) + 2.792%
                  Grant in Aid (Irish Red Cross) + 2.477 %
                  Grant in Aid (Coiste an Asgard) - 33.304 %

                  Total Increase of 2.597% on the Estimated expenditure for 2005.
                  [Current 2.527% and capital 4.61%]


                  However looking at the individual increases/decreases against the background of the overall increase of €19.168m would show this increase being obsorbed on the following percentages

                  PDF Pay + [B]76.539%
                  PDF Allowance + 5.212%
                  RDF Pay etc + 2.337%
                  Defensive Equipment + 25.454 %
                  Air Corps Equipment & Expenses - 25.850 %
                  Military Transport + 6.527 %
                  Naval Service Equipment & Expenses + 8.274%

                  Barrack Expenses & Engineering + 7.137%
                  Buildings + 14.211 % (€21.8m on the capital programme)
                  Ordnance, Clothing & Catering + 6.965 %
                  CIS - 6.443 % (€2.8m on the capital programme)

                  Military Training + 0.464 %
                  Travel & Freight Services + 1.748%
                  Medical Expenses + 0.402 %
                  Lands + 2.217% (€16m on the capital programme)
                  Compensation -41.736 %

                  Equitation + 0.125%
                  Miscellaneous + 6.318%
                  EU Security & Defence Policy + 0.157%
                  Grant in Aid (CD Board) + 0.840%
                  Grant in Aid (Irish Red Cross) + 0.115 %
                  Grant in Aid (Coiste an Asgard) - 1.951 %

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                  • #10
                    Good, good....

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                    • #11
                      Government policy is I believe to reduce the pay non-pay ration in defence expenditure - to towards 70/30 !!!!!!

                      Difficult to achive this year when estimates goes up by 2.597% over all while the pay element up by 3.73%

                      €524.797m of €713.128m in 2005 [or 71.12% of total or 73.59% of Revenue] as against
                      €544.392m of €731.150m allocated for 2006 [71.90% of total or 74.45% of Revenue]

                      Government Estimates 2006 pages 74 and 75 give the game away

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                      • #12
                        2007

                        Estimates for 2007 were published today - http://www.finance.gov.ie/documents/...mates12007.pdf

                        DF Budget for next year - €796,080,000 + €2.6 million that was unspend last year

                        DOD:
                        A.1 - SALARIES, WAGES AND ALLOWANCES +3%
                        A.2 - TRAVEL AND SUBSISTENCE -2%
                        A.3 - INCIDENTAL EXPENSES -34%
                        A.4 - POSTAL AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICES -6%
                        A.5 - OFFICE MACHINERY AND OTHER OFFICE SUPPLIES AND RELATED SERVICES -7%
                        A.6 - OFFICE PREMISES EXPENSES -26%
                        A.7 - CONSULTANCY SERVICES -80%

                        A.8 - VALUE FOR MONEY AND POLICY REVIEWS (none this year) €117,000 in 2007
                        No Change in overall spend

                        DF:
                        B. - PDF PAY +4%
                        C. - PDF ALLOWANCE +5%
                        D. - RESERVE DEFENCE FORCE: PAY, ETC. -4%
                        E. - CHAPLAINS AND OFFICIATING CLERGYMEN: PAY AND ALLOWANCES +5%
                        F. - CIVILIANS ATTACHED TO UNITS: PAY, ETC. -1%
                        G. - DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT 11%
                        H. - AIR CORPS: EQUIPMENT AND EXPENSES +8%

                        I. - MILITARY TRANSPORT +2%
                        J. - NAVAL SERVICE: EQUIPMENT AND EXPENSES +2%
                        K. - BARRACK EXPENSES & ENGINEERING EQUIPMENT +12%
                        L. - BUILDINGS +11%
                        M. - ORDNANCE, CLOTHING AND CATERING +15%

                        N. - COMMUNICATIONS & INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY +2%
                        O. - MILITARY TRAINING +2%
                        P. - TRAVEL AND FREIGHT SERVICES +2%
                        Q. - MEDICAL EXPENSES +2%
                        R. - LANDS -18%
                        S. - EQUITATION +2%
                        T. - COMPENSATION +27%
                        U. - MISCELLANEOUS EXPENDITURE -10%

                        V. - COSTS ARISING DIRECTLY FROM IRELAND'S PARTICIPATION IN THE E.U.'S EUROPEAN SECURITY AND DEFENCE POLICY + 2%
                        W. - CIVIL DEFENCE BOARD (GRANT-IN-AID) +3%
                        X. - IRISH RED CROSS SOCIETY (GRANT-IN-AID) +2%
                        Y. - COISTE AN ASGARD (GRANT-IN-AID) (PART FUNDED BY NATIONAL LOTTERY) +4%
                        Overall DF +5%

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HavocIRL View Post
                          Awww! I was hoping for a tank this Christmas.
                          SSSHHHH Murph might be reading this ...:wink:
                          Last edited by Pod; 16 November 2006, 21:19.

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                          • #14
                            T. - COMPENSATION +27%

                            WTF i thought this (deafness claims) was sorted?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by coffee View Post
                              T. - COMPENSATION +27%

                              WTF i thought this (deafness claims) was sorted?
                              reading in the paper today, they are expecting quite a few cases to be brought to court for "PTSD", their was a story today about a soldier who served in Lebanon suing after a confrontation with Hezboallah
                              Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?

                              Dr. Venture: Dean, you smell like a whore

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