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  • DeV
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    MOD: Question asked & answered - Thread Closed

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  • Slacker
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    Well hedge, my Sage-like dad's always told me

    If you don't ask, it's definitely no. If you ask, it'll probably be no.
    That said, the voice of experience is one to listen to.
    Last edited by Slacker; 1 January 2006, 23:02.

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  • hedgehog
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    I'm with sunnyjim on this one
    Well not to burst your bubble- I take it neither of you have ever sat down and interviewed potential recruits-

    The days of 6 months or join the army are well and truly gone-

    why raise the lads hopes, when he clearly hasnt got a chance- lets be honest to him

    As a Pl Sgt I wouldnt want him,

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  • Slacker
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    I'm with sunnyjim on this one. While I do see problems, the only way you are going to see if you can get in is by giving it a go. I think there would be a lot of detail needed, far more than what you can put down here on a public message board before a decision is made. If you can explain exactly what happened in interview, and can prove yourself as trustworthy after the offence, then I see no reason why you can't at least try to get in.

    As for the martial arts, while yes you will most likely have most of your time taken up, I beleive that the DF encourages any activity that improves fitness etc, which martial arts certainly does. I've heard of people getting leave to go on kayaking, amongst other things.

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  • hedgehog
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    Sunny Jim Says
    Burgelry and theft? You'll have to explain that one to whoever interviews you... But I think they will let you in.
    Hedgehog says
    They will in there shite

    Why waste the chaps time and his hopes- Mate you committed a crime your name is going to be automatically sent to the Gardai who will return your name with a big( very big) NO beside it.


    I am all for giving people a second chance- but lets face it mate your a convicted thief

    I am going to be totally honest with you- If I was on the interview board and you came in and said you had a criminal record like that, in the politest way I could, I would finish the interview there and then, so as to not waste your time any further.

    Good look in whatever you do in the future,

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  • kermit
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    A serious offence is defined as an offence carrying a potential prision term of five years or more.

    From the Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, section 12 deals with burglary:
    (3) A person guilty of burglary is liable on conviction on indictment to a fine or imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years or both.

    (4) In this section, "arrestable offence" means an offence for which a person of full age and not previously convicted may be punished by imprisonment for a term of five years or by a more severe penalty.
    Aggravated Burglary is a different kettle of fish. You didn't say exactly what you were convicted of.

    Tresspass is a minor offence.

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  • p.dougal
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    You defently wont get in, sorry bud.

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  • Joshua
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    I think that most employers would be delighted to employ a convicted thief. You would be at the top of my list as a prospective employee. I assume that the df would also have no problem with trusting you and would therefore welcome you with open arms.Whats this button for....

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  • The Sultan
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    Listen, don't be getting upset before you even try.

    Whatever anyone on this board says, it doesn't matter a damn. There is only one way to find out if they will let you in, and thats by trying.

    Burgelry and theft? You'll have to explain that one to whoever interviews you... But I think they will let you in. Who knows, maybe they'll make a respectable and decent man out of you. Or else they have given a job to a scummer who doesn't deserve it.

    And re:security clearance... thats just a working phrase. Its only called a security clearance when the Gardai have sent the persons file to Brigade HQ and they have read over and cleared it. Otherwise they make up their mind by reading it and an interview. Good luck.
    Last edited by The Sultan; 27 December 2005, 20:14.

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    Originally posted by Lt McCarthy
    Being in the reserves would help, but the army have to get security clearance from the local gardai which is done before the actual interview. If you have a conviction then i dont think youll be called up to be interviewed
    So the choice IS made on tick the box terms.
    What if I was a really serious criminal with a record as long as my arm, ...but I was a foreigner and not convicted by the gards. Crimes foreigners do...dont count you know.
    So the objective is not to keep people with records out of the army, just to keep Irish people with records out. Cant say im suprised. All the army exists for is to keep the paramilitaries down.

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  • McCarthy
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    Being in the reserves would help, but the army have to get security clearance from the local gardai which is done before the actual interview. If you have a conviction then i dont think youll be called up to be interviewed

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    yea, Ill give it a lash.

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  • joe
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    I thought that on the application form you sign a declaration giving the Gardai permission to furnish the defence forces with any information on your record which would affect your joining the df. That was case for fca(2yrs ago) anyway but im pretty sure its the same for pdf.

    You should give it a go anyway you don't know unless you try.

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  • yellowjacket
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    it'd be redicelous to be disqualified for a silly mistake I done when I was drunk, and to my own gaf aswell.
    The fact you were convicted of burglary / theft suggests there's more to this story....


    How long ago were the convictions and what sentence did you receive?

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  • Gasplug
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    I dunno lad, i think you need to look into it more, just out of wonder why did your parents press charges for you breaking into your own house?

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