On my attestation form I answered yes to "Are you willing to accept such pay, gratuities, rations and clothing as may from time to time be prescribed in accordance with law?" so I'll wear whatever they give me.
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Say there is 3000 serving. We all had to get a new beret at say a €5 a go, now we have to get a load of badges sewn on (say they cost €3 for a set).
Net additional cost €24,000
Why when we had a perfectly good means of identifying who we were?
Why when there is a single force concept after making us all the same are they now going to make us different again within the space of 6 months or so?
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Originally posted by DeV View PostSay there is 3000 serving. We all had to get a new beret at say a €5 a go, now we have to get a load of badges sewn on (say they cost €3 for a set).
Net additional cost €24,000
Why when we had a perfectly good means of identifying who we were?
Why when there is a single force concept after making us all the same are they now going to make us different again within the space of 6 months or so?To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain
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Originally posted by DeV View PostGreen berets were easier (and cheaper in the long run)
Gold writing on a black back round for Dress uniforms?..same as NSR one?Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostNot really as they were a separate production line , where as the black ones are universally available.
So how is buying 3000 new black berets for everyone and say 300 annually as FWT replacements and for new RDF recruits cheaper than buying 300 green berets annually?
A green beret would have to be 10 times the price as a black for it to break even
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Remember the cloting procurement cycle runs in three year blocks.I would say the decision to go to black berets was based on not wanting to have a couple of thousand unused green ones in stores had the White paper wadied the RDF. Don't forget their is also another RDF review coming up soon.
Of course the simple option would have been a green patch behind the cap badge for the RDF but go figure"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostRemember the cloting procurement cycle runs in three year blocks.I would say the decision to go to black berets was based on not wanting to have a couple of thousand unused green ones in stores had the White paper wadied the RDF. Don't forget their is also another RDF review coming up soon.
Of course the simple option would have been a green patch behind the cap badge for the RDF but go figure
So what should an RDF PA wear now (it is the 2nd one)?:
- red beret with green patch
- red beret with no patch
- black beret with red patch
If it wasn't broken!!!
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Originally posted by DeV View PostSomething like that could be a call off contract. We will purchase 0-400 annually for 3 years.
So what should an RDF PA wear now (it is the 2nd one)?:
- red beret with green patch
- red beret with no patch
- black beret with red patch
If it wasn't broken!!!"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
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so the REAL cost of the change over is the cost of scrapping existing berets and purchasing new berets and purchase costs for thousands of new flashes
will they give me one for each of my 3 shirts and 2 smocks?"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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So how is buying 3000 new black berets for everyone and say 300 annually as FWT replacements and for new RDF recruits cheaper than buying 300 green berets annually?
A green beret would have to be 10 times the price as a black for it to break evenRemember the clothing procurement cycle runs in three year blocks.I would say the decision to go to black berets was based on not wanting to have a couple of thousand unused green ones in stores had the White paper wadied the RDF
Of course the simple option would have been a green patch behind the cap badge for the RDF but go figureCovid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostI'd rather they invested in badges that differentiate between infantry, engineers, CIS etc. At least there's a practical application to them then. Who really gives a feck whether you're Reg or Res if you can do the job properly?Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by morpheus View Postso the REAL cost of the change over is the cost of scrapping existing berets and purchasing new berets and purchase costs for thousands of new flashes
will they give me one for each of my 3 shirts and 2 smocks?
You will get 1 green one that must be sewn on
Use of Velcro on shirts/smocks will result in you being charged
You will also be charged for not wearing the No1s one, even though it isn't issued
Both will be on the scale of issue for PDF generals ranks but no one in the RDF
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