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    Out of curiosity, do the DF do bayonet training? Speaking to a Sandhurst graduate not so long ago, and he said he spent fourteen hours attacking straw men during his commissioning course. Sounded like fun actually, but he said he was completely fcuked by the end of it.

    Not relevant to much except to satisfaction of my own curiosity.

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    yeah RDF do some during recruit training it involves a lot of PT and getting all the troops really pissed off at an NCO then the target has stripes put on its chest
    our bayonets are shit they are designed to break if they are bent sideways
    cant say any more cos it would be moderated
    The school of artillery told us it couldn't be done...
    They were wrong.

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    • #3
      No, its cos you are talkin outta your.....

      Bayonet training is not on the RDF training program.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #4
        We're not allowed use bayonets. We might hurt ourselves.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Goldie fish
          Bayonet training is not on the RDF training program.
          Some RDF units have been known to do bayonet training

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          • #6
            I think that bayonet training is an essential part of an army doctrine in the way it trains the soldier to think in an aggressive mind frame. It also brings the soldier closer to the ugliness of killing. A knife is a lot more psychologically evoking than a gun. Those who cannot handle it would be identified at a training stage rather than out in the field
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            • #7
              "They don't like it up 'em!" (someone had to say it)

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              • #8
                Have done bayonet training, poor bob(target dummy) will never be the same again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JAG
                  Out of curiosity, do the DF do bayonet training? Speaking to a Sandhurst graduate not so long ago, and he said he spent fourteen hours attacking straw men during his commissioning course. Sounded like fun actually, but he said he was completely fcuked by the end of it.

                  Not relevant to much except to satisfaction of my own curiosity.

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                  Recruits do. After that we move onto more important things and you might never see a bayonet again in your military career. If a soldier has to use a bayonet he might as well be issued with a spear as well.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Groundhog
                    Recruits do. After that we move onto more important things and you might never see a bayonet again in your military career. If a soldier has to use a bayonet he might as well be issued with a spear as well.
                    Never did bayonet training, was shown one alright though, not in recruit camp mind you.

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                    • #11
                      In Tim Ripley's Bayonet Battle it was quoted that in the russo japanese war of 1902..the troops threw rocks at each other rather than use bayonets.

                      The who bayonet thing is a myth..its a physhological weapon more than an effective fifighting tool. The bayonet actually has more uses off the rifle than on. It changes the point of balance when firing and often is more danger to the user than the enemy.

                      As for not being part of the RDF syllabus..its just another bit of kit to loose.

                      Again if you have to resort to the bayonet....something has horribly wrong ..and maybe your marks man ship need revision.

                      I've use three weapons with bayonets attached..and the thoughts of actually using it as a weapon has never really appealled to me....automatic fire is far more effective.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Groundhog
                        Recruits do. After that we move onto more important things and you might never see a bayonet again in your military career. If a soldier has to use a bayonet he might as well be issued with a spear as well.
                        I take your point, but the British did a bayonet charge in the last six months in Iraq, after running out of ammo during a six hour contact.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Infantry Sandbag
                          Never did bayonet training, was shown one alright though, not in recruit camp mind you.

                          Is it true they are made of "Blue Steel", which is poisonous?
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                          • #14
                            Those who cannot handle it would be identified at a training stage rather than out in the field
                            Zulu, that doesnt actually happen- these days the onnly way to get rid of a recruit is, for him/her to actually look to go-

                            Its easier to get rid of knackers at the end of your road than a recruit--

                            Every one knows bayonets are made in the back room of the local Pound shop

                            At least our ones were-

                            and finally- bayonets were use in the Falklands
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                            • #15
                              Still useful to have. Was there some instances of bayonets being used in the current Iraq conflict or did I hear wrong?

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