OK, fair point. But what about a competition level skeet shooter? He will have certainly undergone a formal training course on his weapon, probably far more training than your average FCA man, or your average soldier in any army. Do you think he should declare his "specialist" role on his J-1 form?
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Originally posted by strummerOK, fair point. But what about a competition level skeet shooter? He will have certainly undergone a formal training course on his weapon, probably far more training than your average FCA man, or your average soldier in any army. Do you think he should declare his "specialist" role on his J-1 form?
Besides he's still a civilian shooter, anyone in the rdf would have a contract with the DF, making them military personnell, and that is what they want to know, if you'r a member of the military who has done training that sets you apart from civillians.Last edited by ackack; 22 March 2006, 16:05.
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That's not what was asked !!!
The question was posed pertaining to specialist skills or training in firearms or explosives, etc. A competition skeet shooter will have verifiable firearms skills, certain mineworkers will have high levels of training in explosives. Neither may have any military service.
I was just pointing out that there were more people besides the FCA that may be "specialists" !!! Should they be declaring on the form?
As regards your "contract with the RDF"...I would wager that it's not worth the paper it's written on. If I signed one tomorrow, got issued my equipment and uniforms and then just stopped showing up, would I be subject to any action from the FCA? Eventually someone might show up at my door pleading for some equipment to be returned, and that's about all. Contract me arse !!!
I would hardly say that FCA training, and practically any regular military training sets too many people apart from the general population. Have you ever seen some of the PDF floating around? They're a breed apart alright !!!No-one, I think, is in my tree...
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Corps units, snipers people who have done SINGCARS (hope I spelled that right) training ect... have a specialist skill and military service. Infantry have military service and could argue that tactics is a specialist skill. last time you checked was the DPM in your wardrobe issued to you? then you are a member of the DF. just tick yes. /RANTThe school of artillery told us it couldn't be done...
They were wrong.
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That's right...tick "YES" and then go into detail and explain all of the specialist military training you have received, SINCGARS, sniper (!!!), demolition, evasion, ambush tactics, etc, etc.
The good folks at USIT and at US Immigration will have a great laugh. Don't expect a J-1 without some hassle though.No-one, I think, is in my tree...
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Originally posted by strummerBut what about a competition level skeet shooter? He will have certainly undergone a formal training course on his weapon, probably far more training than your average FCA man, or your average soldier in any army. Do you think he should declare his "specialist" role on his J-1 form?
And at the risk of sounding the s/handbags at dawn bell, the last time I checked the FCA is no more and has been replaced with the RDF :wink:
I finaly completed the process today with the aid of both embassy personel and the company supplying the VISA. For future reference any member of the DF applying for a J1Visa to the USA should answer YES to "Do you have any specialized skills or training, including fire-arms, explosives, Nuclear, Biolgoical or Chemical experience?" and "Have you ever preformed military service?"
hope this clears things up for future applicants that are in the same predicament as myself!"Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"
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Honesty is probably the best policy,in a case like this. I'd put it down,if I were you, plus if they see you are a member of the military, even the reserve's* it might make it easier for you.....or not, but you won't know untill you try
*, that was not a slight against the RDF, before someone kill's meDr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?
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Originally posted by strummerThat's not what was asked !!!
The question was posed pertaining to specialist skills or training in firearms or explosives, etc. A competition skeet shooter will have verifiable firearms skills, certain mineworkers will have high levels of training in explosives. Neither may have any military service.
I was just pointing out that there were more people besides the FCA that may be "specialists" !!! Should they be declaring on the form?
As regards your "contract with the RDF"...I would wager that it's not worth the paper it's written on. If I signed one tomorrow, got issued my equipment and uniforms and then just stopped showing up, would I be subject to any action from the FCA? Eventually someone might show up at my door pleading for some equipment to be returned, and that's about all. Contract me arse !!!
I would hardly say that FCA training, and practically any regular military training sets too many people apart from the general population. Have you ever seen some of the PDF floating around? They're a breed apart alright !!!
Including Safety and emergency drills.
As our learned collegue has pointed out, civilians can have this competance level at times but I will refer you now to your basic training.
Military pers are highly trained individuals & Teams who, when called upon use the A/M "Specialist" training will incorperate their tactical knoledge as well which culminates in a well organised and planned assault on a goal.
This is what sets Military Trained Pers apart from the "Farmers & Skeet Shooters" of the world.
J1 visa is an easy one, if they ask for details just give them.:tri:As always, too many christians and never enough lions.
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A friend of mine a number of years ago was applying for a job with a UK Government organisation. One of the questions on the form was "Have you or any of your family every taken up arms against the Crown". My friend's grandfather had served with Tom Barry in Cork and while his grandfather was probably turning in his grave he thought it would be less hassel to say NO.
Take what you want from that story Duffman.
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That is true, even the J1 staff themselves said that it might cause hassle. It could of been left blank, it might of been overlooked, but then again if it wasn't it would of been grounds for refusal! And might I add that it would be a lot easier to find someone’s name on a register of personnel serving in the DF than trace back 3 generations of a persons family to find that their ancestors took part in an uprising! Point taken but ya never know!!"Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"
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OK lets do this thing.
Duffman, you are neither.
You dont qualify for "performed military service", and unless fixing a puncture is "specialist" skill, you dont qualify for that either.
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herr flick have you been following this discussion or maybe you just don't comprehend?! Or is it just your comment that is off....? That may be your opinion (entitled as you are to it regardless of how right or wrong you may be) in the eyes of this particular form filling out extravaganza, I meet the criteria on both instances in accordance to the powers that be. And I am inclined to take their opinions for face value as this topic would be their forté or "speciality" if you will..not yours."Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"
"Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand next to the object you wish to view."
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