Civilian Jobs Not Acceptable To The RDF

[The Prisoner]

Does anyone know which civilian jobs prevent a person from joining the RDF? I believe you cannot be in the RDF and the Gardai at the same time.

[dclimk]

Does anyone know which civilian jobs prevent a person from joining the RDF? I believe you cannot be in the RDF and the Gardai at the same time.

And seeing as gardai are not civilians any other jobs.....

[Joshua]

Similar thread HERE

[hedgehog]

Sinn Fein councillor

[DeV]

From RDF R5:
The following persons shall be ineligible for enlistment in the Reserve Defence Force for
service in the Enlisted Personnel (Army Reserve) or the Enlisted Personnel (Naval Service
Reserve):-

(a) a person belonging to the Permanent Defence Force or the Reserve Defence
Force;
(b) a member of the Oireachtas or a representative in the Assembly of the European
Union;
(c) a member of the Legislative Assembly of Northern Ireland;
(d) a member of An Garda Síochána;
(e) a person who has been discharged from the Defence Forces as a result of a
conviction by the civil power or as a result of sentence of discharge, discharge
with ignominy or penal servitude awarded by court-martial;
(f) a person who, for misconduct or on the grounds or their service being no longer
required or being below Defence Forces physical standards has been discharged
from the Defence Forces, or a person who for misconduct or on medical grounds
has been discharged from the military, naval, air or police services of any other
country or state;
(g) a person who has been convicted of a serious offence by the Special Criminal
Court or by a Civil Court;
(h) a person in receipt of a disability pension from any source;
(i) a person belonging to the military, naval, air or police services of any other
country or state or belonging to the reserve of such services;
(j) a person ordinarily resident outside the State, other than a person who is residing
temporarily within the State for the purpose of attending a course of education and
who is ordinarily resident in Ireland.
(k) a person who was at any time a patient in a mental hospital or other such
institution;
(l) a person who has no fixed home address;
(m) non-nationals who are seeking asylum within the State;
(n) non-nationals (other than EU Citizens) who have less than three years legal and
unbroken residency in the State;
(o) non-nationals (other than EU Citizens) who are not in possession of a certificate of
Registration (Certificate of Residency) issued by the Dept of Justice, Equality and
Law Reform covering the period of potential engagement.

[hedgehog]

a) a person belonging to the Permanent Defence Force or the Reserve Defence
Force;

SO in theory there is nothing to stop a Sinn Fein Councillor enlisting

but a statute ground for inelligibility is membership of that really dodgy body the RDF

[trellheim]

spot on.

[DeV]

Yes but would he be granted security clearance? (remember it now goes via the Bde Intelligence Officer), the membership of the RDF thing means you can't join again if you are already a member.

[Docman]

SO in theory there is nothing to stop a Sinn Fein Councillor enlisting

Theoretically yes.... but in practice....

as it should be

[hedgehog]

Bags me on the cadre staff for when Ferris'isssss fine looking daughter joins

[ODIN]

I think you need your eyes tested hedgehog, just cause she is an easy slapper who shows leg on the late late show, does not at all make her attractive.

(these are the views of this poster, who frankly, found Ms. Ferris revolting and slightly comical)

[HavocIRL]

Just looking it over and noticed nothing refers to the spanking new Garda Reserve. So someone could join both organisations?

[Barry]

Just looking it over and noticed nothing refers to the spanking new Garda Reserve. So someone could join both organisations?

No, because of:

Ineligible Occupations and Activity
The following are occupations ineligible for entry into the Garda Reserve:

1. Persons subject to military law or likely to be subject to military law.

[mugs]

(j) a person ordinarily resident outside the State, other than a person who is residing
temporarily within the State for the purpose of attending a course of education and
who is ordinarily resident in Ireland.

Does that include the north?

[California Tanker]

And seeing as gardai are not civilians

Is there anything in Irish statute that supports that? The legal dictionary definition of 'civilian' is 'non-military', though some of the American general dictionaries have started to exclude police in 'civilian'. (which begs the question over 'what are they?')

NTM