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    Could someone explain the difference between un peace keeping and peace enforcement ? Has the army been involved in peace enforcement ?
    Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

  • #2
    Is this to do with that DF discussion on the radio with Pat Kenny?

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    • #3
      No swift , havent heard it, what was said ?
      Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

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      • #4
        Try here

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        • #5
          I am just curious, is peace enforcement a more robust type of role for the army? Have been looking at the discussion on the army serving in afghanistan, would peace enforcement be a stepping stone for any potential deployments to an afghan type deployment ?
          Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

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          • #6
            The UN operates a number of different types of missions:

            Observer - unarmed officers who will monitor a situation and negotiate locally (eg UNTSO - Middle East)
            Peacekeeping - generally lightly armed & equipped force (eg UNIFIL I in Lebanon (the days before the last lot of fighting))
            Peace Enforcement - better armed & equipped force (eg MINURCAT in Chad)


            The difference is in the Mandate (basically a directive) from the UN Security Council. In a nut shell:

            Peacekeeping - you can fire in self defence
            Peace Enforcement - you can use "all necessary means" to get peace (that includes firing first)

            The rules of engagement will vary from mission to mission and from contingent to contingent - ROEs will not be discussed here as it is an operational matter (unless they are already in the public domain).

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            • #7
              Strictly speaking the first Iraq war could be classed as a peace enforcement mission as it was authorised by the UNSC and authorised the use of all necessary means.

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              • #8
                Cheers swift, question answered. That coalition for peace guy needs a size 11 where the sun dont shine
                Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

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                • #9
                  Is the mission to Chad the first peace enforcement one for the irish army ?
                  Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson

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                  • #10
                    No. Being discussed in Other Thread. UNISOM II was the first Peace Enforcement mission Irish Troops participated in, with INTERFET possibly being the first where Irish troops exercised the enforcement mandate.


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #11
                      Peace enforcement missions Irish troops have been involved in:
                      UNOSOM II
                      INTERFET, UNTAET & UNMISET
                      IFOR
                      SFOR
                      KFOR
                      UNMIL
                      UNIFIL (after Aug 2006)
                      EUFOR Chad
                      MINURSAT

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                      • #12
                        what about ISAF
                        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                        Are full of passionate intensity.

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                        • #13
                          Plus ISAF (having said that Irish troops there aren't on the ground too much) also is EUFOR BiH a peace enforcement mission?

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                          • #14
                            Was not the first U.N. Congo Mission (O.N.U.C.) back in the 1960's

                            not peace enforcement as well?

                            I have seen it referred to as a "Blue Helmet Mission" as opposed to a "Blue Beret Mission".

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                            Last edited by Connaught Stranger; 14 August 2009, 11:59.

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                            • #15
                              where did you get your list from Dev

                              I think there are 1 or 2 missing
                              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                              Are full of passionate intensity.

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