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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gribben View Post
    I'm going to apply for a Cadetship once I finish college next year but I know a lot of people who have applied for it and didn't get in.

    If I end up on that boat are there any routes to a commission through general service for let's say a private or a corporal with a decent University degree?
    Don't forget that getting in as a civilian is by far the better option if that's the route you want to go down.

    The increased score received in interview from being already enlisted in the PDF is quite small so there is no guarantee that being already enlisted will improve your chances of a cadetship massively.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a private soldier but you could find it tough going if a cadetship is your real goal.

    Just apply as a civilian, put enlisting out of your mind and give it your best shot!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dukedy View Post
      Does anyone know how the cadet payscale works?
      I know that regular pay scales go up yearly from 1st Point onwards.
      But Cadetships only last 15 months, so are there certain landmarks that have to be hit in order for pay to increase?
      Or is it every 3ish months? (seeing as there are five points to the scale)

      Thanks.
      This was already answered and replied to in the thread you previously setup.

      http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com...Cadet-Payscale

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DeV View Post
        as ATCs
        Implying that ATCs make a lesser officer than any other type?
        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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        • #19
          Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
          Implying that ATCs make a lesser officer than any other type?
          I wondered the same.....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
            Implying that ATCs make a lesser officer than any other type?
            Absolutely not

            A very Specialist small pool of people

            Afaik they were all ATC NCOs so they had to have ATC qualifications already

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DeV View Post
              Absolutely not

              A very Specialist small pool of people

              Afaik they were all ATC NCOs so they had to have ATC qualifications already
              So why highlight that they were ATCO's.... Primarily an officer in the DF.... qualified as an ATCO. When it comes to highlighting that persons were CFR for what ever reason or the corps it always seems like they have a stigma behind them.

              They are now Commissioned officers regardless of their back round.
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #22
                Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
                So why highlight that they were ATCO's.... Primarily an officer in the DF.... qualified as an ATCO. When it comes to highlighting that persons were CFR for what ever reason or the corps it always seems like they have a stigma behind them.

                They are now Commissioned officers regardless of their back round.
                Some of the most memorable officers I’ve come across (for positive reasons) are CFRs and it is to be encouraged

                Go back to the original question in the thread, just having “a decent university degree” will not get you on a CFR scheme.

                In some cases, they are highly specialised as I was highlighting

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                • #23
                  The CFR scheme in the PDF is very rare, currently running at once a decade it seems. It is a very underutilized source of officers in the DF. That being said the large classes and the increase in age limit for cadets have meant that more other ranks are applying and getting in.

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                  • #24
                    Go back to the original question in the thread, just having “a decent university degree” will not get you on a CFR scheme.
                    As it should be !
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
                      The CFR scheme in the PDF is very rare, currently running at once a decade it seems. It is a very underutilized source of officers in the DF. That being said the large classes and the increase in age limit for cadets have meant that more other ranks are applying and getting in.
                      It is a pity it is not utilised more, some great people have come through that scheme. The current course was supposed to happen around 4 years ago but didnt happen.

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                      • #26
                        sadly senior officers never wanted men from the ranks so to speak...they never considered their ability and knowledge....hopefully this may change....too late for many though...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by golden rivet View Post
                          sadly senior officers never wanted men from the ranks so to speak...they never considered their ability and knowledge....hopefully this may change....too late for many though...
                          That is very untrue of the modern DF where CFR officers are more valued due to their maturity and experience

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fantasia View Post
                            That is very untrue of the modern DF where CFR officers are more valued due to their maturity and experience
                            absolutely and should be done more, would have major benefits for both officers and other ranks

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fantasia View Post
                              That is very untrue of the modern DF where CFR officers are more valued due to their maturity and experience
                              If that is true why are they only run every 10 years or so?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
                                If that is true why are they only run every 10 years or so?
                                10 POC was supposed to start in circa 2015 or so. DOD were dragging their feet about the T&C despite a lotnof pushing from J1. They only got agreement on the T&C at the end of 2017 and competition was run in 2018.

                                I would like to see them run every few years and have it as a viable career path rather than someone be lucky to meet the criteria when one is advertised

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