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Last edited by ancientmariner; 19 April 2021, 10:57.
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Someone on Boards.ie just posted this.
Reading the specs it's like the tender was reverse engineered around it.
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For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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They would need to increase the length, to allow for the work area at the back (it says16m2). They need different engines to allow for higher speed. It needs to allow for safer access, walk around, to the bow area.
They do look good. Fair play if this is whats in mind. I didn't see that in my digging, good bit of kit for the NSR.
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Originally posted by batterysgt View PostThey would need to increase the length, to allow for the work area at the back (it says16m2). They need different engines to allow for higher speed. It needs to allow for safer access, walk around, to the bow area.
They do look good. Fair play if this is whats in mind. I didn't see that in my digging, good bit of kit for the NSR.
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For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostLooking at that is there space at the front for a weapon station though?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
Plenty. Square off the roof of the salon and you have a perfect platform to mount a gpmg on top of the towing bit.
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Boards.ie has picked a little on this topic, some showing some interesting boats, but the speed limit is interesting but all depends on the hull type and loaded weight of the ship. It will be interesting to see what type wins the tender or will it need to be re-tendered, allowing for higher max speed. Maybe its the running costs is the reason why it requires lower speeds. If the NSR are using them for training for 80% of weekends, my guess is thats a lot of fuel, considering 4 ships. Anyone comment on that!
The life costs will be large ie dock, fuel, maintenance etc etc. Think of it in terms of a MOWAG. Servicing intervals for systems, fuel, storage and so on.
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I imagine the scenario would be operating away from base for an overnight period. You don't need full comforts of home, just someplace to get the head down away from operations.
The type of event could be supporting Naval Divers locally or acting as a guard vessel for foreign naval visits. It would be a whole lot better than trying to stay warm and alert on an open RHIB for the duration, as is currently the case.
Any thoughts about the possibility of them being carried by the proposed P31 Replacement? Do you think it's a runner? There is mention of lifting points. Any of the images from the NS so far with that project have shown a motor launch that is not a RHIB on deck.
17. Lifting points
Vessels will have dedicated lifting points. Lift can be by slings or wire rope strops. Proposals to be discussed and agreed with INS Project Manager prior to tender being awarded. Lift strong points or lifting sling position to be clearly and permanently labelled.
Taken in Haulbowline at open day in 2005.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by batterysgt View PostBoards.ie has picked a little on this topic, some showing some interesting boats, but the speed limit is interesting but all depends on the hull type and loaded weight of the ship. It will be interesting to see what type wins the tender or will it need to be re-tendered, allowing for higher max speed. Maybe its the running costs is the reason why it requires lower speeds. If the NSR are using them for training for 80% of weekends, my guess is thats a lot of fuel, considering 4 ships. Anyone comment on that!
The life costs will be large ie dock, fuel, maintenance etc etc. Think of it in terms of a MOWAG. Servicing intervals for systems, fuel, storage and so on.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
In most cases tenderers can ask the awarding authority questions to clarify details, without the need to re-tender. If changes are made to specs during process all bidders and other interested parties are informed.Last edited by ancientmariner; 21 April 2021, 08:51.
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In the issued RFT it is proposed that the Craft would operate up to 40nm offshore. This needs to be described in terms that will comply with RULES of an oversight organisation such as LLyods who do have Rules for construction of Patrol Craft of all types including naval patrol craft. German Llyod classify them as RSA 200, RSA50, RSA 20. and for harbours and approaches only. The RSA 50 allows for 50nm offshore and 50nm along the coastal region. If you wanted to go Dublin to Cork it would have to be in steps of 50nm and take some days . If the 40nm offshore is the limit what are the acceptable or compliant linear distances for inter port travel.?
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostIn the issued RFT it is proposed that the Craft would operate up to 40nm offshore. This needs to be described in terms that will comply with RULES of an oversight organisation such as LLyods who do have Rules for construction of Patrol Craft of all types including naval patrol craft. German Llyod classify them as RSA 200, RSA50, RSA 20. and for harbours and approaches only. The RSA 50 allows for 50nm offshore and 50nm along the coastal region. If you wanted to go Dublin to Cork it would have to be in steps of 50nm and take some days . If the 40nm offshore is the limit what are the acceptable or compliant linear distances for inter port travel.?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
What does our P5 say about such things? The RFT seems to be intentionally vague as to which classification society the build comes under.
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